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Re: Changes we're making to Google Assistant

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post #55

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Quite the opposite. I bike the kids to school every morning. The weather is too important to be summed up by a voice summary, I need the hour by hour details.

I can ask Alexa e.g. "what's the weather at 9am", that doesn't work with Google Assistant?

"The weather in Nijmegen is..."

Re: Changes we're making to Google Assistant

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I believe Google is heading in the wrong direction with their current approach. In my opinion, integrating LLMs and add function calling would be a significant improvement. This integration would enable the assistant to perform more complex and integrated tasks, and facilitate more meaningful conversations. Especially in scenarios where the user’s request isn’t clear or it’s uncertain which application to invoke and how, this advanced interaction capability could be incredibly beneficial.

Re: Changes we're making to Google Assistant

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I was watching a friend use Siri the other day (I've never used an iPhone) and I was blown away by how much it could accomplish in comparison to Google Assistant. He said he used Siri as the default way of interfacing with his phone, which I found interesting. Reading this list of removals, especially the removal of CALLER ID, on video calls no less, an insane choice - how much could that possibily cost to maintain?…

If Siri is better than Google Assistant these days… that says more about how bad GA is, not how good Siri is. I say this as an owner of two HomePod Minis

Re: Changes we're making to Google Assistant

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post #11

A lot of the changes just don't make any sense? Some of the features removed: - Using your voice to send an email, video or audio message. You can still make calls and send text messages - Rescheduling an event in Google Calendar with your voice. You can still schedule a new event. - Asking to take certain actions by voice, such as send a payment, make a reservation, or post to social media. You can still ask Assista…

My guess is that a lot of these features are hard-coded, and they are deprecating them in order to replace them with a more generic LLM-based assistant.

Perhaps, but it seems like a strange approach. I would assume they would retain these features and then gradually replace each one with an LLM-based approach.

Re: Changes we're making to Google Assistant

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post #57

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"Hey Siri, set 10 minute timer". But I suppose you meant for Android ?

Android indeed, or anything that's not Apple nor Amazon nor some other "all your data are belong to us". I know there are some cool DIY hacker projects out there, maybe I should really get my hands dirty tbh? In that case, does anyone know any good links to things they tried recently? Especially with Whisper.cpp and so on it may not be TOO hard on a Raspberry Pi... right?

Try Home Assistant and an esp32 with a mic array. https://www.home-assistant.io/voice_control/

Re: Changes we're making to Google Assistant

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post #30

To me this highlights the core failure with all these voice-driven UIs: you have absolutely no idea what is possible and what isn't. Discoverability is zero, which makes big changes like this even more disruptive. I've already decided that I'm done with Google's smart assistant stuff in any case. I have a Google Home with a screen in my kitchen and the most-used feature (aside from just existing as a photo frame) was…

It's not just voice, but conversational interfaces in general that have this discoverability problem. That means chatGPT. I'm glad people are discovering it, if you excuse the pun. CUIs are not a panacea, not a replacement for conventional UIs.

Re: Changes we're making to Google Assistant

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can ask Alexa e.g. "what's the weather at 9am", that doesn't work with Google Assistant?

"The weather in Nijmegen is..."

Also fails when you live in a town that has homonyms, so it can fail even when it correctly hears the word. Wrong country, that's all!

Re: Changes we're making to Google Assistant

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A lot of the changes just don't make any sense? Some of the features removed: - Using your voice to send an email, video or audio message. You can still make calls and send text messages - Rescheduling an event in Google Calendar with your voice. You can still schedule a new event. - Asking to take certain actions by voice, such as send a payment, make a reservation, or post to social media. You can still ask Assista…

They are probably statistically some of the lesser used features and since there were layoffs in Assistant ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38947224 ) they are probably looking to shrink the codebase being maintained. Assistant has trained our household into thinking that its pretty limited in what it can do so everyone in our home only uses it for basic things. Since Google's assistant can't accomplish more th…

Just because an LLM can better parse what you're saying it does not mean the business logic to act on it exists. The feature discoverability and churn problem will still exist.
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