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Re: Oracle releases Java 7 JDK for Mac OS X

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Someone wrote: post #9
blinkingled wrote: post #8

Some useful information on usage (including with NB and IntelliJ) here - http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-... GUI Apps look weird with the Oracle VM - looks like the Cocoa integration is not yet done.

Not _yet_? OpenJDK has that as a goal " rel="nofollow">http://openjdk.java.net/projects/macosx-port/> , but I do not remember Oracle stating anything about Cocoa integration, so I do not expect anything in that respect from Oracle.

I recall reading it somewhere (Apple mailing list?) that Apple resources are working on the openjdk port and Oracle does pull from OpenJDK so I wouldn't be surprised to see features from OpenJDK pulled into Oracle JDK. It would be weird if Apple contributed stuff into openjdk and oracle didn't pull it into their OS X distribution.

Re: Oracle releases Java 7 JDK for Mac OS X

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Post by astrange »

blinkingled wrote: post #11
Someone wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not _yet_? OpenJDK has that as a goal " rel="nofollow">http://openjdk.java.net/projects/macosx-port/> , but I do not remember Oracle stating anything about Cocoa integration, so I do not expect anything in that respect from Oracle.

I recall reading it somewhere (Apple mailing list?) that Apple resources are working on the openjdk port and Oracle does pull from OpenJDK so I wouldn't be surprised to see features from OpenJDK pulled into Oracle JDK. It would be weird if Apple contributed stuff into openjdk and oracle didn't pull it into their OS X distribution.

Oracle JDK uses the live OpenJDK source repository. There are only minor differences between Open and Closed JDK.

Re: Oracle releases Java 7 JDK for Mac OS X

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Post by Someone »

blinkingled wrote: post #11
Someone wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not _yet_? OpenJDK has that as a goal " rel="nofollow">http://openjdk.java.net/projects/macosx-port/> , but I do not remember Oracle stating anything about Cocoa integration, so I do not expect anything in that respect from Oracle.

I recall reading it somewhere (Apple mailing list?) that Apple resources are working on the openjdk port and Oracle does pull from OpenJDK so I wouldn't be surprised to see features from OpenJDK pulled into Oracle JDK. It would be weird if Apple contributed stuff into openjdk and oracle didn't pull it into their OS X distribution.

Oracle being Oracle, it would not surprise me if they ignored Mac OS X specific changes. They may not want to take up the responsibility for testing and maintaining such changes (what if a security bug surfaces on code Apple contributed?)

Re: Oracle releases Java 7 JDK for Mac OS X

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Post by stevoski »

Someone wrote: post #14
blinkingled wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recall reading it somewhere (Apple mailing list?) that Apple resources are working on the openjdk port and Oracle does pull from OpenJDK so I wouldn't be surprised to see features from OpenJDK pulled into Oracle JDK. It would be weird if Apple contributed stuff into openjdk and oracle didn't pull it into their OS X distribution.

Oracle being Oracle, it would not surprise me if they ignored Mac OS X specific changes. They may not want to take up the responsibility for testing and maintaining such changes (what if a security bug surfaces on code Apple contributed?)

Oracle has indeed taken on Mac OS X specific changes. There are a few cosmetic issues still not resolved as of this update. But they are known, and in their bug tracker.

Oracle and Apple have actually worked together closely and openly on this. Anyone can sign up to the macosx-port-dev@openjdk.java.net and follow the progress.

Re: Oracle releases Java 7 JDK for Mac OS X

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Post by stevoski »

blinkingled wrote: post #8

Some useful information on usage (including with NB and IntelliJ) here - http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-... GUI Apps look weird with the Oracle VM - looks like the Cocoa integration is not yet done.

There are a few unresolved issues with the OS X look and feel in OpenJDK. I've been actively seeking them out and reporting them, as my product is written in Java and is a Mac-only product, so I affected by any issues.

IMO Apple and Oracle are actively and openly working on these outstanding issues.

Re: Oracle releases Java 7 JDK for Mac OS X

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Post by super_mario »

rauar wrote: post #6

Hmmm. Supprted Macs: any Intel Does it really run on 32bit Intels and on Snow Leopard? Still use a 1st gen Macbook Pro...

Installer is Lion only. It refuses to install on Snow Leopard, unless you hack it (pgkutil --expand to extract it, edit Distribution file and remove OS version check, then repackage with pkgutil --flatten). It will install, but I haven't tested extensively if it works. I would not use it for production anyway on unsupported OS.
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