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eBay pays $3M fine in blogger harassment case

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(IANAL) The amount you win in a lawsuit has to be based on actual damages so if you want to sue for emotional distress it has to fit the legal definition which depends on the jurisdiction. Since emotional distress isn't bound to any hospital bills or other quantifiable harm, it generally pays quite a bit more.

Damages shouldn't be subjective but based on the acts committed.

So if you show your fist to a child or to Mike Tyson it's the same threat?

Re: eBay pays $3M fine in blogger harassment case

#52

The filings said the couple had been left "emotionally, psychologically, and physically" terrorised. I always find it interesting that, when people sue other people/companies for some kind of harassment, they have to claim something like this. Shouldn’t it be obvious? Like, they got weird stuff by mail and got stalked. That should be enough? What if they didn’t actually got scared, what if they laughed at it? They we…

> The acts of intimidation included sending live insects, a foetal pig and a funeral wreath to the Steiners' home in Natick, Massachusetts.

> Baugh and his associates also installed a GPS tracking device on the couple's car and created posts on the website Craigslist inviting sexual encounters at their home, according to the filings.

Dunno, emotionally, psychologically, and physically terrorized doesn't seem like a ludicrous way to describe that.

Re: eBay pays $3M fine in blogger harassment case

#53

The filings said the couple had been left "emotionally, psychologically, and physically" terrorised. I always find it interesting that, when people sue other people/companies for some kind of harassment, they have to claim something like this. Shouldn’t it be obvious? Like, they got weird stuff by mail and got stalked. That should be enough? What if they didn’t actually got scared, what if they laughed at it? They we…

Look at the wording of the laws they’re referencing- and you’ll see why the terms are used.

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> Baugh's lawyers said he faced pressure from former eBay CEO Devin Wenig to reign in the Steiners over their coverage of the company. Mr Wenig, who stepped down in 2019, has not been charged in the case and denies knowledge of the harassment campaign. I'm no D.A. but isn't this the spot where the prosecutor offers Baugh a reduced sentence in return for testifying against Wenig?

Wenig maybe made a "counter offer" to Baugh of some sort? With such people, you never know. Maybe a horse head or some other refreshing token of appreciation.

Re: eBay pays $3M fine in blogger harassment case

#56
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Damages shouldn't be subjective but based on the acts committed.

So if you show your fist to a child or to Mike Tyson it's the same threat?

> So if you show your fist to a child or to Mike Tyson it's the same threat?

Based on the meaning of the word threat, yes.

Re: eBay pays $3M fine in blogger harassment case

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post #21

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> Clearly the ordering is increasing in value Here's your mistake. Alphabet ordering is decreasing in value.

Yes you are right but I think you’ve found a bug with my cack handed description of my logic, not with the logic itself! We value things highly by assigning them symbols with low values, so a symbol with a postfix modifier that gives it a slightly lower value means we value it higher! Or something :)

- 1-10

- bronze-silver-gold-platinum-diamond[1]

- Military patches get more ornate with increased rank

- etc.

Its a nice theory but it doesn't really follow.

[1] Tangential, but I have particular annoyance with how game deal with sub-ranks. Some games indicate the highest tier within a rank with the highest number, whereas others use the lowest number.

Re: eBay pays $3M fine in blogger harassment case

#58

> The acts of intimidation included sending live insects, a foetal pig and a funeral wreath to the Steiners' home in Natick, Massachusetts. If someone I knew claimed that eBay execs were sending them things like this I wouldn’t believe them. It’s like something from a TV show.

Honestly it sounds like the kind of harassment that involved the phrase "who will believe you?" at some point.

Re: eBay pays $3M fine in blogger harassment case

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post #48

The filings said the couple had been left "emotionally, psychologically, and physically" terrorised. I always find it interesting that, when people sue other people/companies for some kind of harassment, they have to claim something like this. Shouldn’t it be obvious? Like, they got weird stuff by mail and got stalked. That should be enough? What if they didn’t actually got scared, what if they laughed at it? They we…

Forensic psychology is a weird discipline that evolved more from legal precedents than social science research. There are standards for what counts as victimization, and incentives to categorize negative emotional responses as e.g. recurring episodes rather than chronic or permanent problems. Those legally-defined turns of phrase are like pinball bumpers that they have to hit to activate different levels of compensat…

That is just another fascinating side effect of society that I never realized but makes complete, obvious sense.

Re: eBay pays $3M fine in blogger harassment case

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(IANAL) The amount you win in a lawsuit has to be based on actual damages so if you want to sue for emotional distress it has to fit the legal definition which depends on the jurisdiction. Since emotional distress isn't bound to any hospital bills or other quantifiable harm, it generally pays quite a bit more.

Damages shouldn't be subjective but based on the acts committed.

I love “computer people incorrectly try to transfer their ‘expertise’ to law”. Gotta be one of my favourite parts of HN.
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