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Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by revorad »

TY wrote: post #207
revorad wrote: post #50

If you have any issues (in addition to the ones already mentioned by others here), please let me know. If you're interested in buying Thinkpads with Linux pre-installed and fully tested, please sign up here - http://giniji.com/ubuntu_laptops.html

Just signed up. Would love to hear more about your business. It's really a pain to find a laptop that would not suck under Linux for any of the important dimensions (wifi, battery life, external monitor support, working fn keys and etc). I know of System76 and etc, but their hardware doesn't inspire me much (spoiled by Apple).

Thanks for signing up!

We want to build the best computers for programmers at the best price with the OS most programmers run on their servers and dev machines anyway.

All the issues you mention and others relating to graphics continue to exist because there is no single organisation focusing on the full hardware+software stack. [1] It is really hard to get everything working on such a huge range of hardware with software that keeps moving so fast.

So we are starting by focusing on just getting everything working on some of the best existing machines - Thinkpads.

If you have any ideas or requests for your ideal setup, please share them here or email me at hrishi@giniji.com.

[1] I don't want to take any credit away from System76 and other similar companies. They've done a great job, but they don't seem to be proactive in pushing things forward.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by rufugee »

andyl wrote: post #21
rufugee wrote: post #14

I'm one of those weird folk who run three monitors, and even though 12.04 promised better 2+ monitor support through Unity 2D, I still find it lacking. Perhaps it's the way I have it configured, but I use two nvidia cards with xinerama, which means I'm forced to use Unity 2D (no compositing support). Unity 2D just isn't as stable or usable. I really, really hope they put more effort to fixing this in 12.10.

Have you tried Gnome? I also use 2 monitors, and hope that Gnome on 12.04 supports multi-monitors well.

I have. Gnome 3 refuses to load with three monitors on Xinerama...but I have heard it works ok with two...just as Unity does. It's when you go to three that things get rough.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by vibrunazo »

lhnn wrote: post #212

If you despise Unity, switch to Xubuntu. A minimal amount of customization allows it to feel just like Gnome 2.

Can you easily set it to quickly search for apps using Super and change apps using Super + number hotkeys? Or something similar?

I'm not really a fan of unity, but I cannot live without those 2 features anymore :S

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by akavlie »

cryptolect wrote: post #67

Ok, I've just tried my 12.04 / Unity laptop with my 22" monitor. The thing is, I have my laptop on the left, and 22" on the right. So I want to set the Unity launcher to the right hand side of my main screen, the 22" display, so that it doesn't get in the way of scrolling to the laptop's screen. Sounds simple right? Switching the launcher from left to right? Wrong. http://askubuntu.com/questions/123552/unity-launcher…

I ran into this when Unity first debuted. That's when I knew it wasn't ready for prime time.

It's sad that this is still a limitation, but not entirely surprising. Canonical seemed to be intent on pushing this to everyone regardless. And now they don't even seem to be supporting the traditional Gnome desktop (whether 2.X or 3.X).

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by akavlie »

cryptolect wrote: post #85
revorad wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What machine (and config) are you using?

Lenovo X220. Standard Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity. Laptop display configured for left, 22" configured for right. Because I have launcher configured for auto-hide, every time that I scroll across to the left to reach the laptop display, the launcher gets in the way, hence I want it on the right. I've read some of the other comments below and I've decided to try gnome-classic instead. It's a pity, because I really wanted t…

I'm curious: how long have you been running Ubuntu on your X220? And how stable has it been?

I was using Ubuntu on an X220 as my development machine for a while, with Ubuntu 11.04. It was extremely unstable -- the machine would freeze frequently when unplugging the DisplayPort cable, or even right in the middle of working. That along with a host of small bugs and annoyances (invisible desktop space on the smaller display in dual-display mode -- a longstanding issue in X apparently) eventually drove me back to using a Mac.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by prg318 »

rufugee wrote: post #156
ard0r wrote: post #135

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The proprietary drivers have worked OK for me, but I've had issues with playing video. I just couldn't get smooth framerates. The radeon driver was worse in that aspect. I swapped in two nvidia cards and video looked much better. It should be fine for general use and I'm still trying to make the ATI setup work. I don't need 3D, just video. I have a 5870 eyefinity 6 that has 6 display ports, but those are no longer ma…

Thanks....I may try an AMD. I don't need 3D support either, but I do need compositing support (does no 3D mean no compositing? Not sure...). Not having compositing on the linux desktop these days means you're a second class season. Both Unity and Gnome3 require it to function...if you don't have it, you have to fall back to Unity2D (incomplete user experience) or Gnome 2 (no longer supported. KDE actually does the be…

I'm currently using a NVIDIA GT218 (for one monitor) and a GT520 (for two other monitors) on my Arch Linux system. Although Xinerama support is nearly unusable with this setup (most likely due to the different chipsets on the cards), you can do TwinView (for two monitors) and a separate X screen (for the third) or 3 separate xscreens. I just do 3 separate xscreens (I'm a gamer and don't like to see my quake client stretched across two of my monitors and my TV :) ). You can't move windows between monitors with Xinerama or TwinView, but that's a sacrifice I was willing to make for my configuration. I am able to do compositing across all three of my monitors with this configuration.

Anyway, I hope this helps!

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by hucker »

revorad wrote: post #50

If you have any issues (in addition to the ones already mentioned by others here), please let me know. If you're interested in buying Thinkpads with Linux pre-installed and fully tested, please sign up here - http://giniji.com/ubuntu_laptops.html

Upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 killed my MacBookPro (5,5), it gets stuck on boot. Stopping system V runlevel compatibility shows up and then no more :( With recovery mode it hangs on the screen where you choose whether to boot normally or drop to root shell etc..

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by bmelton »

noahc wrote: post #148
RegEx wrote: post #136

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If replying to a comment with "Upvoted" is unproductive, what's more productive about saying "Downvoted"?

I don't always down vote, but when I do I prefer to leave a comment. I've probably down voted someone less than 20 times on HN, but when I do I like to leave a comment as to why. Its been the case where I've been down voted and wondered why. His comment isn't a troll comment and looking at his past comments he seems to be reasonable, intelligent, and otherwise a productive member of HN. I wanted him to know why I dow…

Just so you don't feel like the whole world is against you (I have no idea if / how many downvotes you may be getting) -- just wanted to chime in that I approve of your behavior completely, as well as the reasons for which you choose to downvote.

Thank you for trying to keep up the quality of conversation here.

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