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Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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post #178

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IRC was commercialized very successfully. It’s called Slack and Discord.

neither of those things use IRC. unless you're just referring to channel-based instant messaging.

Even if Slack doesn't IRC it is absolutely based on it, down to slash commands and channel name syntax.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#242
post #168

There were also national versions, e.g. http://bash.hu is still online. Would love to have a collection, there is far too little sociological/folklore research about the net.

ccTLDs, inexhaustive https://web.archive.org/web/20100222/http://bash.org.az https://web.archive.org/web/20070217/http://bash.org.by https://web.archive.org/web/20060424/http://bash.org.il https://web.archive.org/web/20071022/http://bash.org.kg https://web.archive.org/web/20061203/http://bash.org.lv https://web.archive.org/web/20090830/http://bash.org.md https://web.archive.org/web/20060101/http://bash.org.pl https:/…

https://web.archive.org/web/20040212/http://bash.fi

https://web.archive.org/web/20070227/http://qdb.gr

https://web.archive.org/web/20060402/http://qdb.hu

https://web.archive.org/web/20040420/http://qdb.us

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#243
post #125

What a shame. IRC is one of the few protocols left of the early Internet that hasn't been aggressively commercialized and colonized by corporate interests, and this is just another nail in the coffin. Often times I wonder why basically _everything_ must be on the Web, and if all that historical baggage and complexity is really necessary, or even worth it at all.

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Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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post #180
post #125

What a shame. IRC is one of the few protocols left of the early Internet that hasn't been aggressively commercialized and colonized by corporate interests, and this is just another nail in the coffin. Often times I wonder why basically _everything_ must be on the Web, and if all that historical baggage and complexity is really necessary, or even worth it at all.

> Often times I wonder why basically _everything_ must be on the Web Because for the great majority of users, i.e. those who thought that "the internet" lived inside the blue "e" icon for IE on Win XP, or those who "break their cup holders" [1] they have great difficulty handling the fact that they need to launch different apps on their computer for different purposes and so everything has coalesced around "web based…

The great majority of people grew up with the internet at this point, and this is largely not true.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#246
post #240

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It is, but it will get you banned. Has no one else noticed the rise of censorship evading slang among zoomers? Eg saying "unalive" instead of "kill". I remember there was a big file with a bunch of these for chinese youth I found fascinating some 15 years ago. And now we have to do it too.

It's probably from the era of content silo algorithms that really do not like and punish your content for saying certain words, like COVID-19 in mid 2020, or "dead" today (I seem to recall a YouTuber having to beep himself saying that word very recently) These kids grow and learn with Youtube after all. Don't blame zoomers, blame American puritanism in tech.

I'm not blaming zoomers, no more than I am blaming chinese youth who have to talk about "aquatic producers" to avoid being censored for even discussing censorship.

Ironically I tried looking for a list of officially banned words on twitch. All I found was journalist spam 'summarising' and telling me how I should feel about it.

One site had a list of 50 words, all of which they censored, literally:

- N-word

- F-word

- C-word

- S-word

- T-word

When I scrolled to the end ( "A*kissing" ), I got a newsletter popup.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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It's more than money, they still require care and feeding. At some age (and I'm getting to that), you just tire of being a sysadm, esp. for "home"/hobby stuff.

Even if it's a static HTML, you need to patch your webserver, OS, and migrate the whole stack to newer versions. This is why I'm scaling down my home infrastructure to SBCs and run everything on Debian with stock package repositories. It reduces tons of burden to something very manageable.

Stick it on s3, tell cloudfront to serve from the bucket, and let that sucker run almost unattended till aws shuts down.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#248
post #28

I just had an argument over IRC with a stranger on the internet last week. We're still out there. I thought the humor on this site hadn't aged well, but this one got me: :( Turn that frown upside down! ):

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Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#249

Most recently, I was using bash.org as my go-to non-HTTPS site for captive portal purposes (back when HTTPS Everywhere was a useful extensions). But the built-into-Firefox HTTPS only treatment handles captive portals gracefully already, so I didn't actually visit in a while. Goodbye!

I use http://alwayshttp.com for this.

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Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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It is, but it will get you banned. Has no one else noticed the rise of censorship evading slang among zoomers? Eg saying "unalive" instead of "kill". I remember there was a big file with a bunch of these for chinese youth I found fascinating some 15 years ago. And now we have to do it too.

The similarity to China isn’t a coincidence. This is all coming from the cultural dominance of TikTok among young people, which (to my knowledge) algorithmically downranks any content that has those words in them. It’s a common Chinese strategy, born of Chinese censorship requirements, which TikTok naturally used when presented with similar-enough problems outside of China.

This goes far beyond TikTok. Twitch, Youtube, the jurisdictions of Canada, the UK, Australia... this is one thing I'm not willing to blame China for, I am just noting how close it is the same thing that China does.
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