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Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by UncleMeat »

rightbyte wrote: post #90
UncleMeat wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard to say if BigHead style devs are being affected here. Annual review ratings aren't quite yet finalized, so it is hard to know whether they could be used as input to a layoff system.

What is "BigHead style devs"?

BigHead is a character from Silicon Valley who doesn't actually know how to do anything, does basically zero work, and manages to still fail upwards. This is describing devs that are sitting around and doing an hour of work a day and aren't actually achieving anything but have somehow managed to not get fired for low performance because their manager isn't paying attention.

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by lulznews »

UncleMeat wrote: post #91
rightbyte wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is "BigHead style devs"?

BigHead is a character from Silicon Valley who doesn't actually know how to do anything, does basically zero work, and manages to still fail upwards. This is describing devs that are sitting around and doing an hour of work a day and aren't actually achieving anything but have somehow managed to not get fired for low performance because their manager isn't paying attention.

This is actually the ideal profile at FAANG and a quick track to upper management.

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by pdav »

Zetobal wrote: post #57
joak wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft was once on the decline and it's now bouncing back. Having billions and captive markets (by network effect) seems to help.

Microsoft is too big to fail the perfect place for a shit ceo like Satya to just hold the finger in the wind and go with the flow.

What? Hasn’t Nadella been, like, a complete turnaround from the Ballmer years? Did you think Ballmer was onto something with Windows Mobile and not releasing Office apps for the web/iOS/android?

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by altairprime »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #40
lennannard wrote: post #29

let me know if yall want to come work at Microsoft. reach out to me about it https://www.linkedin.com/in/leepenkman/

All of us? HN is quite a big place. Is HR ready to be DDossed with applications?

My employer’s (not Microsoft) biggest problem has been getting any competent sysadmins to apply at all. Maybe one in a few hundred applicants is capable enough to interview; the rest are just cookie-cutter cloud-only SREs who’ve never cared for a server before. They’d love to be “DDoS’d with applicants”, because there might be a few capable sysadmins in that pile! And we’re a lot smaller than Microsoft — so, yes, most likely, they’re ready.

(Our job postings are all published on the usual job database sites under the usual sysadmin/opseng titles, and I don’t have any sort of special intake process to offer beyond that.)

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by JohnFen »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #39

I wonder what does this mean for the "Everyone can code" movement (bootcamps, initiatives within Google and the like, government funding). They keep saying that you can get a high paying job if you do a 9 month course. When the best of the field are getting laid off, I wonder how long will the "Everyone can code" movement survive

> They keep saying that you can get a high paying job if you do a 9 month course.

It's good if this way of thinking dies. It does a disservice to those taking the course, and it does a disservice to the industry.

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by JohnFen »

favabeanzzz wrote: post #63
bossyTeacher wrote: post #39

I wonder what does this mean for the "Everyone can code" movement (bootcamps, initiatives within Google and the like, government funding). They keep saying that you can get a high paying job if you do a 9 month course. When the best of the field are getting laid off, I wonder how long will the "Everyone can code" movement survive

Erm, who says the folks being laid off are the "best of the field?"

Some are, some aren't. The decisions about who to lay off are not generally connected to how good they are.

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by JohnFen »

dcrow0 wrote: post #84
sinuhe69 wrote: post #30

Their revenue growth is still good. Stock price increased. We are in a bad economy for one or two more years, but it already started a year ago. So what could the the reason for this time mass layoff? Section 174?

bad economy? the economy is shit for tech, everywhere else, it's booming. there is a shortage of labor in education, hospitals, government, hospitality, retail the reason it's shit for tech is the greed of wall street. they want more short term gains

> the economy is shit for tech

Even this is overstating it. It's shit for some segments of the tech sector, but in other segments it's going gangbusters. On the whole, it doesn't seem unusually good or bad.

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by rainclouds »

altairprime wrote: post #94
bossyTeacher wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of us? HN is quite a big place. Is HR ready to be DDossed with applications?

My employer’s (not Microsoft) biggest problem has been getting any competent sysadmins to apply at all . Maybe one in a few hundred applicants is capable enough to interview; the rest are just cookie-cutter cloud-only SREs who’ve never cared for a server before. They’d love to be “DDoS’d with applicants”, because there might be a few capable sysadmins in that pile! And we’re a lot smaller than Microsoft — so, yes, mo…

This hits home. I wish I knew the company now.

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by poncho_romero »

gfdsgdfgfd wrote: post #67
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #17

As I have been saying for a while Google, Amazon, Facebook, all these companies are on the decline. We have allowed them to become so big that they don't fall fast but it's very apparent that they would have been disrupted if they were normal sized like companies were in the past.

> We have allowed them to become so big You have?

I believe they are using the democratic _we_ (as opposed to the royal _we_).
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