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Re: Google lays off hundreds in hardware, voice assistant teams

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Post by lern_too_spel » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 12:03 PM UTC

sidcool wrote: post #89

How much of this is Sundar's fault?

All of it. Google's management is rotten all the way up and down the entire organization, but Sundar has now had several years to fix it. According to my sources, all he's done is remove any internal measurement of the problem, so now he just has the lagging indicator of the market.

Re: Google lays off hundreds in hardware, voice assistant teams

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Post by rvz » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 12:16 PM UTC

hipadev23 wrote: post #38

Confirms that rest and vest was a zero interest rate phenomenon.

Indeed it was. The fact that many HNers here thought it would continue forever was quite hilarious.

Re: Google lays off hundreds in hardware, voice assistant teams

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Post by dns_snek » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 12:21 PM UTC

guiriduro wrote: post #59

xyst wrote: post #22

Useless C-level executives focusing on short term gains from RIFs rather than innovating. G is just a shadow of it’s former self. I can’t wait for the great G disruption

G disruption already arrived, with ChatGPT and Bing copilot, search now has a superior challenger/disruptor it has lacked for over a decade of G incumbency.

I don't believe that's going to be a lasting disruption, even if it might alleviate some of Google's shortcomings for now. Just wait until they enshittify the good parts of ChatGPT with ads and start milking paying customers for data. The demand for YOY growth in VC-funded companies mandates this.

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Re: Google lays off hundreds in hardware, voice assistant teams

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Post by addandsubtract » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 1:16 PM UTC

sidcool wrote: post #89

How much of this is Sundar's fault?

C levels at fault? Good one.

Re: Google lays off hundreds in hardware, voice assistant teams

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Post by jzombie » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 2:07 PM UTC

gandalfgreybeer wrote: post #79

jzombie wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I personally use ChatGPT far more than Google search these days.

I’ve started to do this more often recently as well. Do you employ any specific approach for prompting to get what you want more consistently?

No. I just talk to it, like I am talking here, and if I don't get the answer I want, I tell it so.

Re: Google lays off hundreds in hardware, voice assistant teams

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Post by Xlythe » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 3:03 PM UTC

TotoHorner wrote: post #31

googledtnifzn wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can confirm this.

does Google have a hiring freeze right now?

They've had one ongoing since Q3 2022 in my org.

Re: Google lays off hundreds in hardware, voice assistant teams

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Post by foogazi » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 3:34 PM UTC

ulfw wrote: post #83

foogazi wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do we do with this info? Is In-N-Out hiring SWEs ?

No but burger staff is harder to replace by AI than SWEs.

Respectfully disagree here

Re: Google lays off hundreds in hardware, voice assistant teams

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Post by crossroadsguy » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 4:14 PM UTC

TotoHorner wrote: post #31

googledtnifzn wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can confirm this.

does Google have a hiring freeze right now?

The recruiter who reached out to me, two months ago, said as a disclaimer -- there is a possibility that even if I get an offer the joining might happen only in 8-12 months. Felt bizarre.

Re: Google lays off hundreds in hardware, voice assistant teams

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Post by crossroadsguy » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 4:19 PM UTC

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #66

Google is no longer on Glassdoor's best places to work list. Best Places to Work 2023: 1. Gainsight 2. Box 3. Bain & Company 4. McKinsey & Company 5. NVIDIA 6. MathWorks 7. Boston Consulting Group 8. Google 9. ServiceNow 10. In-N-Out Burger Best Places to Work 2024: 1. Bain & Company 2. NVIDIA 3. ServiceNow NOW 4. MathWorks 5. Procore Technologies 6. In-N-Out Burger 7. VMware VMW 8. Deltek 9. 2020 Companies 10. Fidel…

    3. Bain & Company
    4. McKinsey & Company
    7. Boston Consulting Group

Are these really best places to work at? I have met many people from these places and I have been told that there is no on-call at these places. Because you are always expected to be working without exception. Always! And often you are actually always working - always as in morning, day, evening, night kinda.

Is that true?

Re: Google lays off hundreds in hardware, voice assistant teams

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Post by BlackjackCF » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:14 PM UTC

jzombie wrote: post #95

gandalfgreybeer wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve started to do this more often recently as well. Do you employ any specific approach for prompting to get what you want more consistently?

No. I just talk to it, like I am talking here, and if I don't get the answer I want, I tell it so.

Interesting. Do you still find yourself using search at all to verify answers?

I’ve found it useful for getting the general gist of something, but anything that requires something beyond the surface - I always end up having to verify because it’s usually wrong.