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Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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Post by svnt »

GTP wrote: post #65
bayindirh wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you're right. My HN password is *****. When I edit, I can see it, but when I save the comment, it becomes starred. It even randomizes the length every time I save. Brilliant!

But this also means that they know your plaintext password, meaning that they're saving passwords in plaintext. Given that this is mostly a technical community, it's much more the risk of keeping a database of plaintext passwords than the benefit of being able to obfuscate passwords in comments. EDIT: thanks to another commenter, I understood that what's happening in the above comments is just a meme and HN isn't sto…

What actually happens is more complex: when you type a *******, HN tries to log in once for every string in your *******, and then when it succeeds it goes back and replaces that string with a randomized length of asterisks.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#82

Post by BuildTheRobots »

GTP wrote: post #65
bayindirh wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you're right. My HN password is *****. When I edit, I can see it, but when I save the comment, it becomes starred. It even randomizes the length every time I save. Brilliant!

But this also means that they know your plaintext password, meaning that they're saving passwords in plaintext. Given that this is mostly a technical community, it's much more the risk of keeping a database of plaintext passwords than the benefit of being able to obfuscate passwords in comments. EDIT: thanks to another commenter, I understood that what's happening in the above comments is just a meme and HN isn't sto…

(sticking with the obliviousness for a moment,) Would they need to store the plaintext password? Hashing every word typed isn't efficient but it's possible to achieve without knowing the plaintext.

It reminds me of Facebook allowing login even when you've mistyped your password: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/214814/why-can-...

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#83

Post by balou23 »

kratom_sandwich wrote: post #40
poisonborz wrote: post #36

There were also national versions, e.g. http://bash.hu is still online. Would love to have a collection, there is far too little sociological/folklore research about the net.

http://www.ibash.de for Germany :-)

Newfangled stuff... german-bash.org was the original.

Has also been dead for 2 years now. I found a 20 year old quote of mine on archive.org. How time flies.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#84

Post by k__ »

Sakos wrote: post #71
kratom_sandwich wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.ibash.de for Germany :-)

I think I recognize some of these from bash.org. Are all of these just translated? xD Or maybe I read them somewhere else ... god, it's been so long.

There was another site, called german-bash.org, but it went down last year :/

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#85

Post by jwilk »

frankjr wrote: post #3

Huh, it really looks like it's not coming back this time. It has been offline for ~6 months. At least most of the quotes are backed up. https://web.archive.org/web/20230701000000*/bash.org https://gitlab.com/dwrodri/bash_irc_quotes

What do they mean by "cleaned"?

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#86

Post by halfmatthalfcat »

adhesive_wombat wrote: post #32

This is what happens when you don't use a proper capital-S Stack. Probably they weren't even using Kubernetes and a separate multi-cloud management DB for monitoring their data pipeline ingest.

Rather they have some bare metal, FTP-ing files directly to prod, right?

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#87

Post by frantathefranta »

toyg wrote: post #53
bayindirh wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Host resolves, packets are dropped (ICMP timeouts, but nothing is "unreachable"). My sysadmin gut says that the server is there, behind a firewall, and the webserver is down/stopped, or the firewall is killing everything. The IP is not shared. It reverse-resolves, too. So, it's not dismantled and thrown to side. Looks like the hosting provider, Idologic, got bought by Stablepoint. Maybe they have somehow blocked the…

One of the most famous quotes was about a server that is online and pings, but the sysadmin doesn't know anymore where it physically is.

Happened to me recently when moving. Couldn't find one of my zigbee temperature sensors, but it was still reporting information diligently, so it had to be somewhere in the house. Took about 6 months before I found it.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#89

Post by frantathefranta »

poisonborz wrote: post #36

There were also national versions, e.g. http://bash.hu is still online. Would love to have a collection, there is far too little sociological/folklore research about the net.

https://lamer.cz/ in Czech Republic. Definitely thought that was the original long time ago.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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Post by mynameisash »

bayindirh wrote: post #39
raverbashing wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're saying the server pings but nobody knows where it's at?

Host resolves, packets are dropped (ICMP timeouts, but nothing is "unreachable"). My sysadmin gut says that the server is there, behind a firewall, and the webserver is down/stopped, or the firewall is killing everything. The IP is not shared. It reverse-resolves, too. So, it's not dismantled and thrown to side. Looks like the hosting provider, Idologic, got bought by Stablepoint. Maybe they have somehow blocked the…

This sounds complicated. I should grab my robe and wizard hat.
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