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More Teens Who Use Marijuana Are Suffering from Psychosis

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UBI. Stoners sitting in their apartments watching Netflix and ordering in pizza are good for the economy and good for the environment, compared to being starving and out stealing.

Giant apartment buildings full of druggies on welfare? It's been tried.[1] Also see Cabrini Green, Pruett-Igoe, etc. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Taylor_Homes

The world is different from the 1970s. There was nothing to do then in your apartment but watch TV and call people on your landline.

These days people can lead intense, immersive (though certainly unhealthy) lives from their couch.

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Ok then. If we take the hypothesis at face value, what is to be done about it? Prohibition obviously isn't a solution as that's the status quo - it's already illegal for teens to buy and consume cannabis.

Cannabis is a risk factor in schizophrenia, but it is a million miles from being the risk factor. Happy, healthy young people with stable family lives rarely use cannabis on a daily basis; conversely, people with troubled childhoods and pre-existing mental health problems are most at risk from heavy cannabis use.

If the goal is preventing severe mental illness, then the best solution we've got right now is coordinated and well-funded multi-agency intervention to support at-risk families and young people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_factors_of_schizophrenia

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Giant apartment buildings full of druggies on welfare? It's been tried.[1] Also see Cabrini Green, Pruett-Igoe, etc. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Taylor_Homes

The world is different from the 1970s. There was nothing to do then in your apartment but watch TV and call people on your landline. These days people can lead intense, immersive (though certainly unhealthy) lives from their couch.

Um. Not wrong.

It's so "The Machine Stops".

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> The average THC content of cannabis seized by the Drug Enforcement Administration was 15% in 2021, up from 4% in 1995. Many products advertise THC concentrations of up to 90%. This is really the key here as it means that previous studies that showed health benefits are completely irrelevant now. This isn't like the image of smoking pot in the basement from the 70's anymore. I'm watching the descent of my BIL's ment…

> This isn't like the image of smoking pot in the basement from the 70's anymore This line has been in use (with a different antecedent period) as a prohibitionist staple since at least the 1980s. You know how we would not have this issue? If there was legalization and regulatory standadization.

I'm not sure of your point.

Are you saying that all previous studies of marijuana are still valid, and that strength hasn't gone up?

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I am not anti-legalization but marijuana is a drug and needs to respected as such. Legalization has enabled people to consume high amounts of THC frequently and we're seeing adverse effects from it. Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome was something unheard of a few years ago

I wonder if the discontinuity of illegalization has made this a bigger problem than it would have been.

Many/most parents have no interest in it, because they value stability and risk aversion. When they were interested, it was illegal and a no-no. So many kids grow up with free-for-all, and with parents who can't teach them the respect they need. Add to that group pressure, and re-legalization without some sort of phasing-in seems like it would cause lots of acute issues.

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> This isn't like the image of smoking pot in the basement from the 70's anymore This line has been in use (with a different antecedent period) as a prohibitionist staple since at least the 1980s. You know how we would not have this issue? If there was legalization and regulatory standadization.

I'm not sure of your point. Are you saying that all previous studies of marijuana are still valid, and that strength hasn't gone up?

There is no hidden message. There are two sentences, and they mean exactly what the words in them say, and that’s it.

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I have several friends who smoke regularly, lots. In the range of 5,7,10 joints per day. My opinion is that you can't, in your 40s, expect to be a functional adult with that amount of THC constantly in you. It just shows, you are slow and dull and sometimes dumb.

Every time I bring this up, they go all defensive. They would not change their habit a little bit.

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I'm not sure of your point. Are you saying that all previous studies of marijuana are still valid, and that strength hasn't gone up?

There is no hidden message. There are two sentences, and they mean exactly what the words in them say, and that’s it.

And I am not disagreeing with any of it, your phrasing is just very aggressive which made me wonder.

As an outside observer it is classic "over the top" Americanism.

You like a large vehicle, we will make comically large vehicles!

You like hops in your beer? We will increase hop usage by 1000%! (Honestly some of the American independent IPA beers I tried in the 2000's practically required straining through your teeth)

You like strong weed?...

And that's where we are at, it would also explain why Musk went from jerk to unhinged.

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