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Google lays off hundreds working on its voice-activated assistant

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Re: Google lays off hundreds working on its voice-activated assistant

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Doesn't Google do that thing where if your team becomes redundant, they don't lay you off, they give you some time to find another team if you choose to transfer?

They have done that before. But they have also laid off 12,000 employees without doing that as well. Do we know which today's announcement resembles?

Looks more like last years Jan layoffs. Laptops restarting & people getting locked out.

Re: Google lays off hundreds working on its voice-activated assistant

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is, because it suggests that a development arc either has maxed out, or is now subject to a different dynamic. Apple has a team of at most 12 people working on TCP/IP and IPv6. It's arguably one of the most important parts of the software stack. But, it's late stage mature code. Netflix had 4-6 people working on TCP flow control. Google had a small team, based in Japan, doing IPv6 for android. If a team ha…

> Apple has a team of at most 12 people working on TCP/IP and IPv6 Do you know who they are and how to reach them? I have filed 3 or 4 bugs with proper reproducers through Apple's feedback assistant over the years and till this day those issues haven't even received a single comment nor any acknowledgement that the report has been read.

Perhaps write it up as an open letter/blog article and link it here??

Re: Google lays off hundreds working on its voice-activated assistant

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I have both Nest Mini's and Alexas strewn throughout my house hooked up to my home automation etc.. Over time I've found that Alexa works better and that the google assistant progressively gets worse. This will probably not help things. Makes me wonder if they are slowly stepping away from Google assistant.

Re: Google lays off hundreds working on its voice-activated assistant

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Doesn't Google do that thing where if your team becomes redundant, they don't lay you off, they give you some time to find another team if you choose to transfer?

They have done that before. But they have also laid off 12,000 employees without doing that as well. Do we know which today's announcement resembles?

From what I saw in the UK, the Jan 2023 layoffs (the 12k) had a lot of people redeployed. Of the 3 people I knew personally impacted by it, 2 were redeployed elsewhere in the business (1 eng, 1 HR). I know it happened extensively in at least one other country too.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple has a team of at most 12 people working on TCP/IP and IPv6 Do you know who they are and how to reach them? I have filed 3 or 4 bugs with proper reproducers through Apple's feedback assistant over the years and till this day those issues haven't even received a single comment nor any acknowledgement that the report has been read.

Perhaps write it up as an open letter/blog article and link it here??

I prefer just getting those bugs addressed. A lot of times writing these blogs and open letters just brings some attention to the blog/article and the real issue never gets addressed. Plus at least 2 of these would involve me sharing internal details which I prefer doing only through the official bug reporting channels.

Re: Google lays off hundreds working on its voice-activated assistant

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Wow... What is going on it tech? We are just 10 days in the new year and every day there has been surprise layoffs! Unity Twitch Several startups And now.. Google! This is at the same time when stocks are almost all time high :).

Employees are a companies most valuable assets. All that a company has to do is to lay off a bunch of them and it realizes that value with a higher stock price :). Edit: in case anybody missed the nuance, this comment is meant as satire.

Re: Google lays off hundreds working on its voice-activated assistant

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Google lays off 0.05% in a restructuring. Is that really "the scoop" and newsworthy?

I think it is, because it suggests that a development arc either has maxed out, or is now subject to a different dynamic. Apple has a team of at most 12 people working on TCP/IP and IPv6. It's arguably one of the most important parts of the software stack. But, it's late stage mature code. Netflix had 4-6 people working on TCP flow control. Google had a small team, based in Japan, doing IPv6 for android. If a team ha…

> because AI can do it cheaper

I'm interested to see how this works out in the mid-longer term to see where it tracks on the graph with "Cheaper" on one axis and "Better" on the other (where '0' is in the centre of the "Better" axis, not at the bottom/left).

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