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> People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. This is the kind of worldview that comes from years of navel-gazing in a therapist's office. "Why do I beat my kids? ...Because my father beat me! Now that I understand why I do it, I can stop beating my kids..." Or, you could just stop beating your kids. It doesn't matter why it happens, it just matters that it happens. But instead of pre…
This is funny because most therapists these days practice CBT or one of its variants, which is explicitly focused on behaviors and outcomes and gives minimal weight to investigating "root causes" like that. The kind of worldview that comes from never doing therapy I guess.
The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)
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Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)
#372This is a super interesting thread, but (un)fortunately Haidt's claims about a teen mental health epidemic have been pretty convincingly debunked. https://reason.com/2023/03/29/the-statistically-flawed-evide... Aaron Brown checked a sample of the papers Haidt relies on to build his case and found that they couldn't support his claims. They're of the sort of quality we've come to expect from the field, dominated by ti…
I don't see how you can reach this conclusion when it's very clear in the data that hospitalizations for teens due to self-harm has gone up significantly. Are you suggesting that hospitals are not now or were not previously correctly reporting this data?
Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)
#373If you want to posit an explanation for this phenomenon, you have to be able to explain two things: what changed abruptly in the early/mid 2010s?, and why did it uniquely affect teen girls? Many of the reactions I've seen over the years to these authors' work focuses on some particular frustrations or complaints about American society, the economy, our culture, and so on. The problem with these theories is that none…
Social media created a perpetual church gossip culture where every action and statement is endlessly evaluated by the peanut gallery, while also creating a land rush for finding new moral angles to exploit for social status. Naturally, this catty culture will affect females more and teen girls in particular. Why specifically social media? It's a function of communication efficiency. It's why church is associated with…
Why naturally? Can you describe this without leaning on a vague and misogynist adjective. There might be something here but as stated it's no more nuanced and has no more explanatory power than "women are like that."
Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)
#374If you want to posit an explanation for this phenomenon, you have to be able to explain two things: what changed abruptly in the early/mid 2010s?, and why did it uniquely affect teen girls? Many of the reactions I've seen over the years to these authors' work focuses on some particular frustrations or complaints about American society, the economy, our culture, and so on. The problem with these theories is that none…
Social media created a perpetual church gossip culture where every action and statement is endlessly evaluated by the peanut gallery, while also creating a land rush for finding new moral angles to exploit for social status. Naturally, this catty culture will affect females more and teen girls in particular. Why specifically social media? It's a function of communication efficiency. It's why church is associated with…
How does it follow that this "naturally" affects teen girls more than other demographics?
This strikes me as at best hand-wavey. If you suspect some underlying cause of this, please state it explicitly rather than implying a tautological "teen girls are just like this."
Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)
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True. I'm not religious but when people stop worshipping the invisible sky daddy they turn to worshipping OnlyFans models, Amouranth-style twitch streamers and toxic masculinity gurus like Andrew Tate.
Do the women you know worship OnlyFans models, Amouranth-style twitch streamers and toxic masculinity gurus like Andrew Tate?
Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)
#376People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. I think that the cultural changes that lead to that have been running for far more time than people give credit for, and that social media is just the proverbial canary on the mine that made things explicit. Those changes are multi-generational changes, and more probably there are a multitude of factors behind it. Family structure, economy f…
>We will probably won't find a culprit It's capitalism. That's the answer you're looking for
We had capitalism for a LONG time before we had the international teen mental illness epidemic.
Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)
#377People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. I think that the cultural changes that lead to that have been running for far more time than people give credit for, and that social media is just the proverbial canary on the mine that made things explicit. Those changes are multi-generational changes, and more probably there are a multitude of factors behind it. Family structure, economy f…
>We will probably won't find a culprit It's capitalism. That's the answer you're looking for
Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)
#378People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. I think that the cultural changes that lead to that have been running for far more time than people give credit for, and that social media is just the proverbial canary on the mine that made things explicit. Those changes are multi-generational changes, and more probably there are a multitude of factors behind it. Family structure, economy f…
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>I know you’re all gonna laugh at this
Alas it is this attitude itself that might become laughable. I don't get what is so incredibly unbelievable about EMF interacting with biology, and I certainly hope we don't discover this the wrong way.
Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)
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But that doesn’t happen at a global level. The medium is the message!
Advertisements is a global phenomena. Advertisements are often made to make you depressed about your situation, so the more effective they are the more depressed people get.
• Slushy machine!
• Buy our cereal, it has a buff friendly tiger with a dashing neckerchief!
• Buy our chocolate, the sexy cartoon rabbit lady/ambassadorial guests say it's wonderful!
• Here's a small man made of butter playing a trombone!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGHLriHhvtg
• This anthropomorphic telephone wants you to get a loan!
• Weird adverts that turned out to be for perfume or sometimes beer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mp646_H_xo
None of this seemed to be aiming at getting anyone depressed.