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The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by paulcole »

muragekibicho wrote: post #325
drewjaja wrote: post #317

Our society is teaching us to seek money, power, intelligence, beauty, bodily satisfaction, all of which will never satisfy us. “If you worship money and things — if they are where you tap real meaning in life — then you will never have enough. Never feel you have enough. It’s the truth. Worship your own body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly, and when time and age start showing, you will die…

True. I'm not religious but when people stop worshipping the invisible sky daddy they turn to worshipping OnlyFans models, Amouranth-style twitch streamers and toxic masculinity gurus like Andrew Tate.

Do the women you know worship OnlyFans models, Amouranth-style twitch streamers and toxic masculinity gurus like Andrew Tate?

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Post by coolThingsFirst »

elzbardico wrote: post #39

People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. I think that the cultural changes that lead to that have been running for far more time than people give credit for, and that social media is just the proverbial canary on the mine that made things explicit. Those changes are multi-generational changes, and more probably there are a multitude of factors behind it. Family structure, economy f…

> never ask why social media is like that.

Because they value profits over anything else? The only thing they care about it is having people spend more and more time on the webpages. You'd be surprised at the caliber of talent that spends their valuable years optimising for this. More ad revenue at the expense of mental health is totally acceptable for interwebs comps.

During COVID when the world got inside we just realised how sick 'social connection' sites are, from doomscrolling to outsourcing self-esteem to Tinder. It's an organised system of hijacking attention and minds.

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Post by alamortsubite »

mrweasel wrote: post #329
johnchristopher wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think there's are huge risk that we are about to realize that either social media cannot be made safe, at all, or that it has been made dangerous in order to make a profit. People have been screaming that at the top of their lungs for years.

But what do we do with that information? Un-invent social media, ban it? How would such a ban work and what should it cover? At this point I feel like we should pick a time in history, say the late 1930s or 1940s, somewhere around there, and use that as a frame of reference. Any new technology would be assessed based on the value added to average persons life, vs. the overall cost to society and the planet. Only if i…

In broad terms, you've basically described the Amish.

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Post by wenebego »

maipen wrote: post #334
muragekibicho wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True. I'm not religious but when people stop worshipping the invisible sky daddy they turn to worshipping OnlyFans models, Amouranth-style twitch streamers and toxic masculinity gurus like Andrew Tate.

People were already struggling before any of those people became popular. The population always did this through the ages. Social media came and came in fast. Today's society is still figuring out it's effects on people and what they can do about it. Andrew Tate has been preaching the young folks to work hard, which in fact, is something they need to hear because they are extremely lazy (I agree from personal experie…

To act as if that is all tate is preaching is disingenuous. He also traffics women, and i wonder what he's making them do

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Post by lapcat »

throwaway98797 wrote: post #332
lapcat wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> While it may be taboo to say so What does that even mean? You just said it, and it's also been said by countless people ever since the aforementioned 60s. It's not taboo, it's trite.

it’s taboo because they are advocating a limitation of rights for one party to benefit another others the us isn’t a collective society but an individualistic one

> it’s taboo because

I think you mean simply "controversial".

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Post by emptyfile »

muragekibicho wrote: post #325
drewjaja wrote: post #317

Our society is teaching us to seek money, power, intelligence, beauty, bodily satisfaction, all of which will never satisfy us. “If you worship money and things — if they are where you tap real meaning in life — then you will never have enough. Never feel you have enough. It’s the truth. Worship your own body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly, and when time and age start showing, you will die…

True. I'm not religious but when people stop worshipping the invisible sky daddy they turn to worshipping OnlyFans models, Amouranth-style twitch streamers and toxic masculinity gurus like Andrew Tate.

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Post by emptyfile »

TheCoreh wrote: post #124
nradov wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mentioned the "effect of ever faster economic growth across the world". But economic growth hasn't become consistently faster .

If it's growing at a constant percentage per year, it's growing exponentially, so it must be getting faster in absolute terms, since 2% of today's economy is much more than 2% of 1950s economy.

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

elzbardico wrote: post #39

People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. I think that the cultural changes that lead to that have been running for far more time than people give credit for, and that social media is just the proverbial canary on the mine that made things explicit. Those changes are multi-generational changes, and more probably there are a multitude of factors behind it. Family structure, economy f…

>We will probably won't find a culprit

It's capitalism. That's the answer you're looking for

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Post by 1-6 »

Opinion: We’re treating kids like adults too early in their lives. Of course breaking laws isn’t ok but who here hasn’t done something crazy? Neighborhoods aren’t being neighbors any longer and people simply want to have law enforcement be the negotiator for everything.

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Post by illinx »

Does anyone know of any studies that look at rates of cigarette smoking, or activation of indoor smoking bans with respect to the data on mental illness? Most of the west banned indoor smoking around 2006-2008, roughly around when smartphone usage started to explode. AFAIK you can still smoke indoors in China--do they show the same trends? What about Nevada? Did any jurisdictions ban indoor smoking a few years before or after the rest of the west and show a graph shifted on the x axis?

This isn't a joke post--cigarette smoking promotes social bonding and nicotine is a mood stabilizer. It's irresponsible to not consider the effects of smoking bans on mental health.

Of course there are many health and aesthetic downsides to cigarette smoking but we should look at the data.

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