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Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#101

Has anyone tried to dist-upgrade? Does it work well? Around the time I was a Ubuntu user (around Hardy 8.04), dist-upgrade would usually break your box and was discouraged by Canonical themselves. If I recall correctly.

I did an upgrade from 11.10 to the 12.04 beta. Seems to work fine.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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I have been at a clients location with my Ubuntu 12.04 laptop today. The "IT guy" there and all the other (non IT) office staff asked me what this is and how they could get it. I had to do a full 15 minutes of explanations about Ubuntu. You cannot imagine the looks after I told them it is free.

Did you give them the whole "4 freedoms" talk? Seems surprising that the IT guy didn't know about it though, can't be many people in the IT world (even dyed in the wool Windows guys) that haven't heard of Ubuntu.

Honestly, you'd be surprised. The IT world includes a lot of people who train up from help desk or similar positions, and spend their time very focused on the specific class of problems they're dealing with. Not surprised at all that someone described as the "IT Guy" might be a small company's only tech, trained up from a non-IT position and with no experience at all outside their tiny ecosystem.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#103
Has anyone tried using this on a netbook? My wife is interested in trying Linux, and I was thinking Ubuntu (or Lubuntu) might be a good choice for her. Speed is an issue for her and one of the reasons she's not satisfied with Windows. I'd introduce her to Gentoo, but I don't think she'd appreciate the joy of GNU make.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#104

Desktop release notes are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuD...

> Hibernate (suspend to disk) has been disabled by default, as it was found to be unreliable, very slow and confusing to have two suspend modes. See bug 812394 for details. If you want to re-enable it, please follow this recipe.

As someone who runs Ubuntu on a laptop with a dead battery, that's somewhat unfortunate.

> The mail client Evolution may delete folders and their contents as they are renamed or moved around in IMAP (and IMAP+) accounts. It is recommended to copy folders and contents before attempting to move or rename them. (957341)

Ouch! I'm surprised a bug that big with a default application wasn't a release blocker.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#106
post #74

Xubuntu seems to be out now: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/d... I've been teaching the beta for a while now, I like it. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS comes with new vagrant, puppet and arduino 1.0. And with Xubuntu, you can use a traditional desktop. Some of my experiences teaching with the beta http://terokarvinen.com/2012/xubuntu-12-04-lts-on-vappu

Yes!

I've been using Xubuntu 12.04 for a few weeks now (beta) and it has converted me back from Debian/Mint. If you don't love Unity, give Xubuntu 12.04 a try before you mess around trying to hack a different DE on Ubuntu.

In the past, Xubuntu felt kind of awkward, at least to me. It felt as though XFCE was sort of mashed on top of Ubuntu, with too much Ubuntu showing through the cracks. But 12.04 feels like 100% its own product.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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I'm one of those weird folk who run three monitors, and even though 12.04 promised better 2+ monitor support through Unity 2D, I still find it lacking. Perhaps it's the way I have it configured, but I use two nvidia cards with xinerama, which means I'm forced to use Unity 2D (no compositing support). Unity 2D just isn't as stable or usable. I really, really hope they put more effort to fixing this in 12.10.

Have you tried Nvidia TwinView? This should let you operate the monitors with some 3D support.

TwinView works for two monitors on one graphics card, but once you get a second card you'll need xinerama, ergo no 3d support.

An ATI card that supports 3 monitors (needs to have a displayport connector and you need an "active" displayport adapter or a monitor with a displayport connector) should work. But don't tell anyone I recommended an ATI card for linux.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#108
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Setting something on gnome (which Unity is based from)? Let's not be naive :)

Yes, poor Unity developpers. They wanted to make this configurable, but Gnome prevented them from doing it. Edit:

Gnome did no such thing. Unity is developed entirely by Canonical, they own full copyright on it and they employ all the developers for it. They can add any options they want, and they can omit any options they want. Gnome doesn't even factor into this.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

#110

If Canonical is reading this, please put up a torrent link on the main page with both versions. Obviously your servers can't handle the load right now.

You can easily reach to this point http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads Find the torrent links here
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