Who's to say they're the first to discover this? They're the first to discover it and do something to fix it. I thought there was a US law now where breaches like this have to be reported?
I pwned half of America's fast food chains simultaneously
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#252It's not clear if the author was hired to do this pentest or is a guerilla/good samaritan. If it is indeed the latter, I wonder how they are so brazen about it. Does chattr.ai have a responsible disclosure policy? In my eyes people should be free to pentest whatever as long as there is no intent to cause harm and any findings are reported. Sadly, many companies will freak out and get the law involved, even if you are…
Do you feel the same about physical security? It's fine for people to walk around your building, peak in the windows, maybe pick the lock on the door, maybe even take a little walk inside, as long as they don't steal anything?
There is a big difference between the digital world and the physical one. Many actions e.g stealing are very different in these 2 worlds and have very different implications.
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#253I was looking at jobs for my son at Safeway supermarkets and lazily put https://www.safeway.com/jobs in the browser. That redirects to https://www.careersatsafeway.com/desktop/home -- which is very much not about jobs at safeway -- appears to be an Indonesian gambling/gaming site. Safeway.com has zero email contacts published and expects communication to be via phone call or chatbot. I found their domain admin email…
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#254If this had been exploited and the job applicants to Target, Subway, Dunkin et al, had bank/credit fraud committed in their name's, would the big companies be liable for not performing due dilligence on chatter.ai? To be clear, I'm asking from a legal standpoint not a practical one.
Someone applying to work at Taco Bell or Subway couldn’t afford a lawyer even if they worked for a full year and saved every penny.
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#255>With an upbeat pling my console alerted me that my script had finished running Forget the pwn how do I do this Also, HN used to think this was cool now there are 20 posts blaming the hacker…
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
The solution is to have fines in place for insecurities and award them to discoverers.
What a wonderful idea. Im sure our nobel politicians will ignore their donors this time and craft legislation that puts large companies at constant threat of more fines. This could never be weaponized against small businesses that pose competition to the bigger fish.
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
That would be referred to as a honeypot. Sometimes administrators will set up their own honeypots to see the type of threats they are facing.
No, a honeypot is intentionally insecure infrastructure setup to see who and how it gets attacked. A backdoored pentesting tool is a backdoored pentesting tool.
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#258>With an upbeat pling my console alerted me that my script had finished running Forget the pwn how do I do this Also, HN used to think this was cool now there are 20 posts blaming the hacker…
I've appended `; tput bel` to the end of long-running scripts to get the same effect. Fun fact: the `bell` control character is part of the ascii standard (and before that the baudot telegraph encoding!) and was originally there to ring a literal bell on a recipient's telegraph or teletype machine, presumably to get their attention that they had an incoming message. To keep backwards compatibility today's terminal em…
\u0007
It’s handy to put in your shell code that takes a few seconds, or more, to complete.Re: I pwned half of America's fast food chains simultaneously
#259>With an upbeat pling my console alerted me that my script had finished running Forget the pwn how do I do this Also, HN used to think this was cool now there are 20 posts blaming the hacker…
beep() {
if [ $? -eq 0 ]
then
file=/usr/share/sounds/purple/receive.wav
ret='true'
else
file=/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
ret='false'
fi
(aplay $file 2>/dev/null >/dev/null &);
$ret
}
Can be called like this: $ command ; beep
Depending on the return value it'll give a different alert. It preserves the return value so you can still chain other dependent commands after it.This depends on the libpurple sounds to be where they are (works in ubuntu at least)