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The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Few deny that a drinking age is necessary. We also need a smart phone age. It's quite obvious that many teens are addicted to their phones and the mostly useless content they consume there.

6 years ago: Social Media is the New Smoking https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14851057

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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I think all the social media stuff is missing the mark. It's 100% bad but it's just trash filling the hole society is making. Looking top down at the problem, humans need self actualization or propose to be happy. Originally we evolved to live in medium sized social groups that worked together to ensure their survival, we took care of each other and that was what drove our purpose, or rather why that need evolved, it…

> best we can be for our community

This is the actual problem, because the scope of realization is way too small for humans to comprehend. That is the reason why we're in a climate crisis, plastic waste crisis, middle east crisis, and housing crisis - all simultaneously.

How did that happen you might ask? Aren't people responsible for this?

Humans are very, very, very _bad_ at planning the future, and they should be absolved of that task, and absolved from the burden of making those decisions. We're in this mess because old people with old opinions lead our nations, and they were trained all their lifetime to only think for themselves and their small little community.

Right-wing populist propaganda works so well because they appeal to emotions around your "nice little community and its values", always painting a dangerous picture of change that people don't want to accept in their isolated world views.

Why humans still drive cars powered by oil today is the best example. Because they're not good at making decisions, and their moral values are always undermined by economic incentives.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The archive of that site has many posts answering your question. Some have been on HN in the past months. Archive https://www.afterbabel.com/archive Here are 13 Other Explanations for the Adolescent Mental Health Crisis. None of Them Work. https://www.afterbabel.com/p/13-explanations-mental-health-c...

> Here are 13 Other Explanations for the Adolescent Mental Health Crisis. She finally gets to the deciding modern condition - the one where kids are systemically denied critical growth time (daily blocks of adult-free time & safe places to roam [safe=no threat of police or other compulsive adults]). And even tho she has this on her list of false suppositions she admits probably isn't as false as she infers. But she t…

Bingo, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38937293

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Good to see more indepth research on this the last article I had read was asserting the social media access theory was correlation and not causatory because studies that were done in mental resiliency were showing that if you have built the resiliency then you can safely handle the social media... But it seems like that explanation doesn't take into account the developing mind. Love haidt's work and glad to see there's more research being done to find out exactly why.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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So first time poster. Couldn't flicking believe thath Haidt, who I wrote about in my Phil masters is continuing this line of simplicity.

The pressure children especially teen girls especially is super cultural. Invention of social media didn't make girls more depressed but allowed new manifestations of all the toxic shite in our society.

The solution is to change our fricking societies not to let assholes and racists to expound stupid theories on campuses, or to take girls phones away and keep them more pure.

What awful pseudo science nonsense.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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I think all the social media stuff is missing the mark. It's 100% bad but it's just trash filling the hole society is making. Looking top down at the problem, humans need self actualization or propose to be happy. Originally we evolved to live in medium sized social groups that worked together to ensure their survival, we took care of each other and that was what drove our purpose, or rather why that need evolved, it…

All this talk about “community” - what “community”? It simply doesn’t exist anymore even if you wanted it - short of arranging to stay near your extended family and in laws, what else is there in the modern western world? Churches, I guess is the only other true community left…

What is "the modern western world"?

The Finns, Italians, and Californians by and large have a very different idea of "community".

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m amazed that I had to read so many comments complaining about social media before I hit this one. How have so few failed to consider the idea that young people might be correctly anxious and worried about the future which looks, in many ways, pretty grim.

How did the future looked like for a kid living through 1929’s crisis? A world in between wars. Or living through the Cold War and the possibility of a nuclear extinction of humans? Despair and hope have always been cyclical and yet we always think we’re “doomed” when living through hard times.

You can be hopeful that war and economic turmoil will end.

Climate change only accelerates.

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