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I pwned half of America's fast food chains simultaneously

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Re: I pwned half of America's fast food chains simultaneously

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> Timeline (DD/MM) > 06/01 - Vulnerability Discovered > 09/01 - Write-up completed & Emailed to them > 10/01 - Vulnerability patched Note those dates are DAY-MONTH. At least they patched it within a single day. I find it funny that the author found a massive vulnerability but chose to wait a couple days to report it so they could finish a nice write-up. Reminds me of my experience with HackerOne: We had some particip…

because writing up a detailed report takes 30 seconds

Re: I pwned half of America's fast food chains simultaneously

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In what year was this? January 10 is tomorrow, even on the east coast, at the time of writing this comment.

That's what i was thinking too, not because it's not already 10th January in europe, but because i doubt you can except a 'thank you' in <8 hours. So I assume this might have been 2023?

It's 2024-01-10 07:11 in France

Re: I pwned half of America's fast food chains simultaneously

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Someone living beyond the US's east coast? Impossible!

I don't think it was an unreasonable assumption given that the article talks specifically about American fast food chains.

I guess three clues:

* They were just trolling Firebase accounts for anything left open, and the first hit was a company that works with a bunch of American fast food chains. That doesn't require OP to live in the US.

* They specified "America's fast food chains"; someone living in the US probably wouldn't qualify it with "America's".

* They used a $DAY/$MONTH date format, which is uncommon in the US.

Re: I pwned half of America's fast food chains simultaneously

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Someone living beyond the US's east coast? Impossible!

I don't think it was an unreasonable assumption given that the article talks specifically about American fast food chains.

The way the dates were written should be an indication that they aren't in the US.

Re: I pwned half of America's fast food chains simultaneously

#155
From Eva’s post:

> we didnt know much about firebase at the time so we simply tried to find a tool to see if it was vulnerable to something obvious and we found firepwn, which seemed nice for a GUI tool, so we simply entered the details of chattr's firebase

Genuinely curious (I’ve no infosec experience), wouldn’t there be a risk that a tool like this could phone home and log everything you find while doing research?

Re: I pwned half of America's fast food chains simultaneously

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Weird, I don't feel nearly as touchy about some ones and zeros on a computer as I do my physical body's safety, without which I would not exist.

OK, make the comparison more direct, then. Say you have a filing cabinet with all of your important and \ or embarrassing documents in it. Are you OK with houseguests giving the handle a little wiggle when they come over to check if its locked? What about the neighborhood kids?

A closer analogy would be your friendly neighbour warning you that you left your garage door open. And yes I would appreciate him telling me.

Re: I pwned half of America's fast food chains simultaneously

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For more crucial PII (such as SSN, health data, payment info, etc), vendors are generally required to have certifications from a third-party auditor (such as SOC2). If the big companies fail to check that, then yes, they can be made liable.

No rules or laws that require it. Closest requirement would be PCI around credit cards but you need lots of volume to be required to do an audit. HIPPA just requires you to do risk analysis and implement risk management. SOX is up to the auditor, when I was CTO at a public company, they were fine with me signing at attestation of all things we had implemented. Same with banks, no explicit requirement in both glba and…

I think the fact that this is true and well known(amongst those that could abuse it) is evidence that infosec, by and large, is overemphasized.

Re: I pwned half of America's fast food chains simultaneously

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Which, even if that assumption were true, is still bonkers, because from what I see in the article they had no partitioning between tenants or permissions checks for different user roles. So even if they hadn't accidentally allowed creating new accounts, any account on any one of their existing customers had full access to every row in the database.

> any account on any one of their existing customers had full access to every row in the database. Correct. :/

It's mind blowing to me, as someone who's built a SAAS and then talked to customers and ultimately their CTOs and CDOs that KFC and co ended up using such a service, either they would isolate the level of data exposed to the service and trust them on their contract - and then ruin them in court, or they would require some kind of compliance like SOC2 which should at least mean the solution was pen tested, and any pen tester worth anything will immediately find firebase is part of the solution and immediately test access rules..

The fact that the company/CEO/cto seems to just get away with this is depressing, because why should anyone else? it's not good business sense to invest in security if there's no serious repercussions

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