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The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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There's that, there's also a better understanding of mental illness, so less if it goes unrecognized, undiagnosed, and unrated.

Growing up, I was an intelligent kid (if a bit shy) who just needed to be more organized.

Today, I'm an AuDHD[1] adult who just needs to have others to have different expectations in some cases, and just benefits from having access to Adderall for some of the others.

In college, I was just a sad kid who thought fantasizing about near-death scenarios were something everyone does.

Today, I am certainly not doing that, in no small part thanks to Sertraline, 100mg, and therapy.

The author presents a good case that this time, there's something different than before. An increase in understanding and rates of reporting does not account for increase in suicide rates, for example.

But the bucket mental illness epidemic in the title (and things like the "TikTok autism/ADHD" epidemic) are partially attributed to that.

Then, there's the COVID pandemic lockdowns which pushed many people to their limits, and resulted in a higher rate of both diagnosis/treatment and consequences of mental illness (or unwellness, if I may).

Then, there's the simple fact that kids in the US are growing up in a world with huge economic uncertainty, little chance of making enough money to become homeowners, the potential of nuclear war being discussed in the media, the potential for civil war being nonzero, ballooning healthcare and education costs, climate chnage not being addressed, and...

And after accounting for all that, we may come to the conclusion that it's not that there's anything wrong with the kids or the modern way of life (with the Internet, cell phones, and all that), but that our entire society is fucked in very traditional ways.

The proper comparison should be to the US circa Great Depression, and even then, the possibility of planetwide environmental collapse or nuclear war was not on the minds of anyone.

Now both are a factor (between Greta Thunberg and Elon Musk, we have pretty much the entire world covered), which is giving an extra push to people who aren't well to begin with.

As a Ukrainian-American Jew, I can absolutely say that the war in Ukraine and Israel has affected every aspect of my life in a major way (helping MIL evacuate from Kyiv being the most direct one, survivor's guilt being one of the hardest ones to deal with).

But I guess that I'm not the only one by far.

And I believe we should not be talking about the "Teen Mental Health Epidemic", but rather about how our fucked up world is fucking up the kids.

It's on us to fix the world, rather than the kids (as the word "epidemic" may suggest).

[1] https://romankogan.net/adhd

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. I think that the cultural changes that lead to that have been running for far more time than people give credit for, and that social media is just the proverbial canary on the mine that made things explicit. Those changes are multi-generational changes, and more probably there are a multitude of factors behind it. Family structure, economy f…

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Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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I’m not a parent nor am I a teen so take my comments with a grain of salt. The one thing that has consistently jumped out to me on this topic is how quickly people seem to jump to convenient answers. Of course you can’t ignore the rise of social media since 2010, but what about the level of control, structure, and surveillance that most young people have been subjected to over the same arc of time? That gets no atten…

I think that arc largely peaked in the 1980s and 1990s with stranger danger and the satanic panic nonsense. Helicopter parents and people calling social services on unattended kids was already a meme by the 90s.

A lot of that cultural change in attitudes can be traced back to the Etan Patz kidnapping case in 1979. That case received widespread, prolonged media attention at the time which made many parents more fearful. He was one of the first missing children to be featured on milk cartons which made it impossible to ignore.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/etan-patz-case-verdict-pedro-he...

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. I think that the cultural changes that lead to that have been running for far more time than people give credit for, and that social media is just the proverbial canary on the mine that made things explicit. Those changes are multi-generational changes, and more probably there are a multitude of factors behind it. Family structure, economy f…

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This reads like it was generated by Heritage Foundation GPT.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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It’s not just social media. Free roaming and spending time outside on their own or with peers went down dramatically for the last 30 years.

I think this is a huge part of it. Kids need to be able socialize and spend time in their environment without constant supervision. It's not just kids either. What ever happened to parents taking their young children to the local playground? Part of it was for kids, but it was also an avenue for meeting other parents and socializing with them. I think dog parks serve more of a social role than playgrounds these days, and that's pretty sad.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. I think that the cultural changes that lead to that have been running for far more time than people give credit for, and that social media is just the proverbial canary on the mine that made things explicit. Those changes are multi-generational changes, and more probably there are a multitude of factors behind it. Family structure, economy f…

The medium is the message.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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I’m not a parent nor am I a teen so take my comments with a grain of salt. The one thing that has consistently jumped out to me on this topic is how quickly people seem to jump to convenient answers. Of course you can’t ignore the rise of social media since 2010, but what about the level of control, structure, and surveillance that most young people have been subjected to over the same arc of time? That gets no atten…

Kids have always been very controlled in places like Asia way before the last decade or two. That’s not it.

Do we have research on how teen mental health in Asia compares to teen mental health elsewhere?

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Life expectancy has gone down, markedly. Do you have a source for this? I'm curious in which country and by how much.

US and UK life expenctancy both dipped by ~ a year whereas, say, Australia | Japan | China | Canada have all continued to rise. Put that down to a complete dogs breakfast response to handling an epidemic.

The recent pandemic had minimal impact on US life expectancy. Opioid poisoning and motor vehicle crashes have been a larger factor since before 2019 because they typically kill much younger people. This magnifies the impact on life expectancy.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/the-opioid-crisis-is-dri...

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