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The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by drfuchs »

ChatGTP wrote: post #19

Since my youth climate change has been A wildly depressing concept to grapple with. Environment destruction period. I mean being depressed is one thing, living in a world that's literally cooking at the same time just takes it up a whole other level. I guess in the past, no matter how bad things got for you on a personal level, you could kind of count on the world being there if you got through it, now it's sort of 5…

Disagree. Folks in the 60’s thru 80’s expected global nuclear annihilation with some probability.

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Post by freddie_mercury »

elzbardico wrote: post #39

People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. I think that the cultural changes that lead to that have been running for far more time than people give credit for, and that social media is just the proverbial canary on the mine that made things explicit. Those changes are multi-generational changes, and more probably there are a multitude of factors behind it. Family structure, economy f…

> People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that

The linked substack frequently asks why social media is like that.

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Post by freddie_mercury »

kbos87 wrote: post #2

I’m not a parent nor am I a teen so take my comments with a grain of salt. The one thing that has consistently jumped out to me on this topic is how quickly people seem to jump to convenient answers. Of course you can’t ignore the rise of social media since 2010, but what about the level of control, structure, and surveillance that most young people have been subjected to over the same arc of time? That gets no atten…

> what about the level of control, structure, and surveillance that most young people have been subjected to over the same arc of time

None of those things changed dramatically in the 2010-2020 time frame.

> That gets no attention, possibly because it’s an inconvenient truth for a lot of parents who prefer it that way.

It gets discussed on the linked substack constantly.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by usr1106 »

Aeolun wrote: post #36
samr71 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I deny a drinking age is necessary. From what it sounds like, the kids should be out there drinking more!

I certainly think a drinking age below the driving age is appropriate. Either by increasing driving, or lowering the drinking age.

Driving is different. It's a lot about harming others. Drinking and smartphone's is primarily about harming the users themselves.

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Post by merek »

grecy wrote: post #35

Do teens have much to look forward to? Climate change is already causing severe weather events, which are very likely to ramp quickly. Careers are a thing of the past, and it seems like no matter how hard you work you'll never "get ahead" and will be lucky not to spend your life living paycheck to paycheck. Life expectancy has gone down, markedly. Debt is up. New wars.

> Life expectancy has gone down, markedly.

Do you have a source for this? I'm curious in which country and by how much.

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Post by Robotbeat »

sixothree wrote: post #17
llIIllIIllIIl wrote: post #5

It’s not just social media. Free roaming and spending time outside on their own or with peers went down dramatically for the last 30 years.

I look at my ability to free roam as a young teen and even late single digits with appreciation and also recognition of the danger. But then I look at the amount of traffic on the streets I crossed on bicycle compared to when I was younger, it makes sense. Even residential streets are less safe from cars. But I know those aren’t the reasons kids don’t play outside anymore.

It’s not just that. It’s that teens are ALSO less likely to drive. When I was 14 and 15, my friends group included someone with a car, and we had a very wide range. https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2023/02/13/...

“Car culture is killing us!” But it’s worse than that; we don’t even have car culture! We have a culture of NO.

No pedestrians. No biking without a helmet! No biking on the sidewalk! No driving!

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Post by ta8645 »

elzbardico wrote: post #39

People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. I think that the cultural changes that lead to that have been running for far more time than people give credit for, and that social media is just the proverbial canary on the mine that made things explicit. Those changes are multi-generational changes, and more probably there are a multitude of factors behind it. Family structure, economy f…

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