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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by a2128 »

throwanem wrote: post #83
a2128 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A while ago I came across a website with a video player that gaslights you with a logarithmic progress bar. It had me fooled for a while into thinking the video has only 2-3 minutes left, before I finally clicked the pop-out button in Firefox and realized I was only 20% of the way through a 45 minute video.

Which website, if you don't mind saying? That's so hilariously vile I want a closer look!

Not the same website, but the video player was made by a Brazillian company called VTurb and they're using the same logarithmic progress bar on their front page. If you inspect element it's literally called "smartplayer-fake-bar"

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by barnabee »

mattmaroon wrote: post #46
mortenjorck wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Doomed to fail," probably. I certainly never expected to see a product so unabashedly quixotic this side of a zero-interest-rate era. But man, what a crazy swing for the fences this is. By my reckoning, this approach is probably ten years ahead of its time. I simply cannot imagine that the tech is there right now to make this nearly as seamless as it will need to be to actually supplant the UI paradigms we have toda…

Idk, I think an iPhone in ten years will look a lot like it does now just with better Siri. Better Siri will open up a lot of things and it’ll be wonderful but we’ll still want a screen (we’ll still interact with the world largely via reading) and an iPhone just looks like a screen. Apple and Google presumably know about LLMs so I don’t really see this device being very influential.

I dunno.

I could imagine replacing my iPhone and my laptop with something Rabbit sized and a lightweight set of AR glasses.

But they need far more than the toy “OS” that Rabbit are demonstrating.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by Krasnol »

I'd buy that for my elderly parents who are overwhelmed with apps.

Probably not the first model but the next one for sure if it can text and phone too.

I think there is a market for this and even though I despise talking to a device, I can see the use and I can see how it could bridge a world which is getting too complicated.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by frogamel »

I must be missing something here. I used to work on a voice assistant product and everything demoed is pretty bog standard stuff: play music, shop, order food, get Uber rides, ask random queries, recognize images.

This also runs into the same core issue as voice assistants, which is that it's way easier to transmit complex thoughts/actions on a nice big visual UI than it is to convert those thoughts/actions into verbal instructions.

For example, when people order food from an online menu, most people are not fine with "get me the closest pizza available". They're usually considering complex tradeoffs between lots of factors: alternative restaurants nearby, how visually appealing is pictures of the food, health content, other options on the menu including their prices and content and how well they complement other dishes, etc. Figuring out how to express these preferences via a back-and-forth with an AI is more tedious than just looking at a visual interface and letting your subconscious process all this information into a choice.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by infotainment »

As usual with Teenage Engineering, I love the hardware design, but this aspect of the software is a letdown:

> rabbit OS operates apps on our secured cloud, so you don’t have to. Log into the apps you’d like rabbit to use on your system through the rabbit hole to relay control. You only need to do this once per app.

So things don't run on the device, but on the cloud. Unfortunate.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by wmf »

infotainment wrote: post #95

As usual with Teenage Engineering, I love the hardware design, but this aspect of the software is a letdown: > rabbit OS operates apps on our secured cloud, so you don’t have to. Log into the apps you’d like rabbit to use on your system through the rabbit hole to relay control. You only need to do this once per app. So things don't run on the device, but on the cloud. Unfortunate.

The device is $200 and appears to be smaller than a phone so yeah, it does not run AI locally. I assume Siri doesn't run locally on Apple Watch or AirPods either.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by ryanklee »

muricula wrote: post #70
ryanklee wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an LLM technology that allows certain models to run on CPUs rather than big beefy GPUs. Makes running locally viable for consumers.

Is there a specific paper or something you can point me to? Or are you talking about like llama.cpp? Because I thought that referred to the fact that it was originally one c++ file named llama.cpp?

I assumed it was in reference to llama.cpp. It's a weak assumption, though.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by scblock »

How can you so badly fail at even saying what the hell this is on your shitty glossy web site? What is this? The page is just a list of hardware 'features' with large but unclear pictures.

"push to talk button" ok, so?

"far-field mike" ok, so?

"360 degree rotational eye" so what?

"analog scroll wheel" that does what?

"usb-c plus sim card slot" which gives me what?

There's a video but I shouldn't have to watch a video.

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