if it can handle my 75 IPD, i'm in for two (else I may need two...)
Something I'm thinking about too (IPD 77).
there's exactly dozens (120) of us!
Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2
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Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2
#412Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right. If this was actually a general purpose VR headset, then it would be competitive. Instead, it's a toy. It's not allowed to be anything more.
What do you mean by general purpose VR? Toy? Without defining how it falls short of your expectations, you just come across like you’re ranting.
This thing is literally not able to run arbitrary software. It is only allowed to run Apple's OS, and only allowed to install software from Apple's app store, written with Apple's app toolchain, and compiled with Apple's app libraries.
There is a whole world of software that this device will never touch, simply because it's not allowed.
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#413Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean by general purpose VR? Toy? Without defining how it falls short of your expectations, you just come across like you’re ranting.
This thing is literally not able to run arbitrary software. It is only allowed to run Apple's OS, and only allowed to install software from Apple's app store, written with Apple's app toolchain, and compiled with Apple's app libraries. There is a whole world of software that this device will never touch, simply because it's not allowed.
Oh ffs. So really for you the quality of the hardware, the price, the whole experience—these things are irrelevant because you can’t sideload. It’s an Apple product what did you expect? “This is the year of Linux on desktop” people are not the intended customers.
Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2
#414Earlier quoted context omitted.
This thing is literally not able to run arbitrary software. It is only allowed to run Apple's OS, and only allowed to install software from Apple's app store, written with Apple's app toolchain, and compiled with Apple's app libraries. There is a whole world of software that this device will never touch, simply because it's not allowed.
Oh ffs. So really for you the quality of the hardware, the price, the whole experience—these things are irrelevant because you can’t sideload. It’s an Apple product what did you expect? “This is the year of Linux on desktop” people are not the intended customers.
It's not irrelevant! Quite the opposite, the overall experience is precisely what is relevant.
It's exactly what I expected from an Apple product. That's why I was never enthusiastic about this hardware to begin with: I knew anything I would want to do with it would be arbitrarily impossible. That's Apple's business model. Just because I'm not the target audience doesn't mean I don't exist!
The target audience is anyone who is willing to pay $3500 for a walled garden. For fucks sake, I'm allowed to be critical of that business model.
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#415Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh ffs. So really for you the quality of the hardware, the price, the whole experience—these things are irrelevant because you can’t sideload. It’s an Apple product what did you expect? “This is the year of Linux on desktop” people are not the intended customers.
It's not irrelevant! Quite the opposite, the overall experience is precisely what is relevant. It's exactly what I expected from an Apple product. That's why I was never enthusiastic about this hardware to begin with: I knew anything I would want to do with it would be arbitrarily impossible. That's Apple's business model. Just because I'm not the target audience doesn't mean I don't exist! The target audience is any…
You’re allowed to be anything you want, it’s just a predictable, well-trod take.
It’s no different than the people who show up in new iPhone announcement threads complaining about iOS and the App Store. We’ve heard all this before literally all the time — Google sells Pixels go buy one of those and be happy. Some of us like what Apple does with their ecosystem.
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#416This product is the first step to the real future of tech. Just like the iPhone took years to catch on (similarly to Vision Pro, the big problem was price), this product's successors will be the market leaders for all tech in 5 years (maybe longer, but I think 5 years is fair).
The iPhone was virtually the only capacitive touch screen phone in 2007. The commercial competition was non existent. The Vision Pro isn't that, the specs are already matched by the Varjo on the higher end, and there's already competition forming to match the price target from all over the place. Sure, "made by Apple" will be a seal of a quality that attracts followers of the brand, but it's probably more on par with…
The Varjo doesn’t have an external display or a real-time processor, and those are just two examples.
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Wikipedia has all of its sources at the bottom of the article itself. If you could actually proof your claim, people would write an article about you.
No one wants to work with me to prove it. Of there is anyone here that wants to help me I am open to it. I am homeless and on disability.
If you can't prove it, why do you yourself believe it? You said you "know how science works" but you've been arguing that 0.1 watts of non ionizing radiation that can't penetrate the skin causes cancer and in a previous thread you were arguing that humans aren't smarter than mosquitos.
Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2
#418>With Mac Virtual Display, users can even bring the powerful capabilities of their Mac into Vision Pro, creating an enormous, private, and portable 4K display, ideal for pro workflows
I think if Apple allows people to run an instance of MacOS on these devices like a VM (i.e. without the need to purchase a Mac, it looks like the CPU is M2 on these devices) that would be the killer feature. This will make the price more reasonable for people who are considering renewing their Macs.
I’d also want to be able to see the image on these devices live remotely e.g. on an iPad or TV similar to Quest 3.
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#419When the Apple Lisa debuted in 1983 it cost $9,995 (equivalent to $29,400 in 2022). The Lisa wasn’t a success but the personal computer was - I think there are some parallels to draw here
except quest 2 costs $300 and Q3 costs $500. And they already exist
And at a lower price point, you get Wifi and more storage with the Nomad.
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No one wants to work with me to prove it. Of there is anyone here that wants to help me I am open to it. I am homeless and on disability.
If you can't prove it, why do you yourself believe it? You said you "know how science works" but you've been arguing that 0.1 watts of non ionizing radiation that can't penetrate the skin causes cancer and in a previous thread you were arguing that humans aren't smarter than mosquitos.
I can’t prove it to other people. I proved it to myself, but when other people want proof, they don’t sit down with me to investigate it.
I’m not arguing that not ionizing radiation causes cancer. I’m arguing that it causes neurological problems. And because it can’t penetrate the skin deeply does not mean it cannot affect ion channels.
And also I wasn’t saying that we’re not smarter than mosquitoes I’m saying that they have different intelligence.
You’re not even listening to me, so how can you learn anything?