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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by giovannibonetti »

oceanplexian wrote: post #33
ttul wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems unlikely given that both Apple and Google have been employing the world's top ML scientists for years, have unlimited budgets, have better access to customers than any startup (to find out what customers want), and ... need I go on? Yes, it's nice that "Rabbit" is exploring this area and being innovative, but unless their particular take on mobile phones catches the world unexpectedly by storm, nobody will…

> That seems unlikely given that both Apple and Google have been employing the world's top ML scientists for years, have unlimited budgets, have better access to customers than any startup. Both of those companies had it handed to them, like, literally got completely smoked by OpenAI, a company with a thousand employees +/- in San Francisco. The giants are incredibly vulnerable, just like the giants that Google and A…

It's a lot harder for startups to win over large companies in hardware, even with a superior product, since shipping hardware is tremendously capital-intensive. An example that comes to mind is Pebble, which had an excellent smartwatch that worked way better than the one from Fitbit, but nevertheless ran out of money and got sold to the latter.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

a2128 wrote: post #22
LASR wrote: post #4

Quick feedback if the founders are watching this: Please allow controls on your keynote video. The video production quality looks great. But I am not watching it if I don't know if it's a 30s one or a 30minute one.

A while ago I came across a website with a video player that gaslights you with a logarithmic progress bar. It had me fooled for a while into thinking the video has only 2-3 minutes left, before I finally clicked the pop-out button in Firefox and realized I was only 20% of the way through a 45 minute video.

Is there a Firefox extension for android that can take over the js crap that people call video players and give something decent? I know there are open in x but that isn't seamless. I just want a video player that is standard across the Board.

Like safari on iOS used to turn any video on browser to a standard video player window with normal controls.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by mattmaroon »

mortenjorck wrote: post #38
leetharris wrote: post #10

I am almost never a hater on people trying ambitious things, but man this is one of the most "doomed to fail" things I've ever seen. You've got absolutely insane market saturation by two major players that have some of the most advanced AI teams on the planet. Almost nobody is going to buy an "LLM-first phone," they will just wait for Apple or Google to put an LLM into their existing phone.

"Doomed to fail," probably. I certainly never expected to see a product so unabashedly quixotic this side of a zero-interest-rate era. But man, what a crazy swing for the fences this is. By my reckoning, this approach is probably ten years ahead of its time. I simply cannot imagine that the tech is there right now to make this nearly as seamless as it will need to be to actually supplant the UI paradigms we have toda…

Idk, I think an iPhone in ten years will look a lot like it does now just with better Siri. Better Siri will open up a lot of things and it’ll be wonderful but we’ll still want a screen (we’ll still interact with the world largely via reading) and an iPhone just looks like a screen.

Apple and Google presumably know about LLMs so I don’t really see this device being very influential.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by Jenk »

swalsh wrote: post #28
leetharris wrote: post #10

I am almost never a hater on people trying ambitious things, but man this is one of the most "doomed to fail" things I've ever seen. You've got absolutely insane market saturation by two major players that have some of the most advanced AI teams on the planet. Almost nobody is going to buy an "LLM-first phone," they will just wait for Apple or Google to put an LLM into their existing phone.

Bookmarking this for the future when everyone just assume Rabbit was an instant hit everyone just assumed would succeed.

Keep it with the "but iPhones get all smudgey from my fingers, yuck" bookmarks.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by superfrank »

northes wrote: post #35

I don't want to be mean, but... - the keynote video isn't scrollable behind the giant "share" button - the text on the keynote page is incredibly difficult to read (small text + very low contrast) - the homepage is full of dizzying animations that don't tell me anything about what the "phone" is actually supposed to do - "How it works" is just a set of animated cards. Once you figure out they're clickable (hoverable?…

I only skimmed the video, but I have to agree. The biggest problem I see is that I don't want to talk to my phone for a lot of things. If I'm having a text conversation or trying to look up something on the internet while I'm in a crowded room, I don't want to use my voice for that. If fact, while there are some things that I would find this helpful for, I would say the majority of the interactions with my phone are things I would actually prefer to have a keyboard for.

While this thing does have a touchscreen keyboard it seems to me like the biggest selling point of the phone is actually something I don't want to use most of the time. I can't really see this succeeding for that reason.

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