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Where Have All the Websites Gone?

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Re: Where Have All the Websites Gone?

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> 4chan has a horrible reputation in the outside world. That's because without any particular individuals to point the finger to, they just blame the monolith of "anonymous individuals". People have always feared the unknown, and the obvious coping mechanism is to aggregate it into some tangible form, whether it's the Boogeyman, Baba Yaga, the Devil, Anonymous, or any other villain, to be used as a scapegoat.

I think communities attract types of folks unless they become uber popular (like reddit) to the point they can attract everyone. 4chan was interesting when I found it, but I quickly found it became mostly toilet humor at its best, and was often (i.e. every time I opened it) full of racism and sexism. It was a safe place for immature folks to shout whatever they wanted and not care who it affected -- though of course…

> It was a safe place for immature folks to shout whatever they wanted and not care who it affected

It is sad that the popularity of internet has reached such proportions that people are no longer responsible for what they read by their own choice, but rather people seem to be responsible for what they write, regardless of the fact that anyone can choose not to read it.

Internet posts are just text, yet people act as if we're forcing others to read what we write. Imagine if writing books that make other people feel bad was banned - what a culture would that be.

Re: Where Have All the Websites Gone?

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post #117

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Yes, that's all you've been doing. But 4chan wears its infamy on its sleeve with pride (usually white pride.) The Alfred E. Neuman shtick of disaffected bemusement was stale even when Mad was published on dead trees. But go ahead and take the last laugh. You're being neither clever nor insightful here.

If all you know about 4chan is /b/ and /pol/ then your opinion is valid, but there are lots of other boards there. In any case I find it useful to see at times what the most opinionated people are really thinking when there are no filters and rules to silence them. Like Isaac Asimov said: "Any book worth banning is a book worth reading." And at times "the worst kind of people" there are spot on in their obsessions. I…

> what the most opinionated people are really thinking when there are no filters and rules to silence them

I'm not sure what "most opinionated" would mean or how'd you determine relative levels, but I would bet whatever metric you chose wouldn't find the most opinionated people on 4chan. Also just because people say things online doesn't mean they actually hold that opinion.

> I 100% agree with them that child and human trafficking is a big issue in this world and some of the most powerful people are definitely involved

Oh, ok, you weren't actually responding to the parent comment at all.

Re: Where Have All the Websites Gone?

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I share the author's feelings on the old web, but I think this misses a fundamental point about younger people: they don't really read as the default anymore, in the sense of reading longform blog posts/articles/newspapers. You could blame this on the impatience of youth, but I think it's actually more of a fundamental shift of media formats. Websites-as-default have gone away because browsing the web (i.e. reading s…

I think it is not that people don't like reading. It is just that video content generate so much more monetization. At least compared to work done. Thus most relevant content is generated as video instead of text. And those generating text are struggling with revenue sources.

If you're a new creator and don't have family with good media connections, then YouTube is pretty much the only way that you can actually get paid for what you make. Regardless of medium.

Anybody tell me what are the other realistic options?

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In my eyes, reddit is the same trash it's always been. Yes, you can find decent specialized subs here and there but, even then, you have to weed through the trash to get a decent response and keep a thick skin from those who are only there to put you down to make them feel better about themselves. And that's never going away.

From 2006 when I joined until maybe just after Obama (2009 or 2010, not sure? maybe as late as 2011) it was the best ever. Like HN on roids. Better than Slashdot that came before it, which was already a junk site by that point, larger than K5. Then it ate every internet forum ever, and turned into this weird authoritarian pervert Myspace thing. Now it's not even a website, but a phone app. I hesitate to click on redd…

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/old-reddit-redirec...

Re: Where Have All the Websites Gone?

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The causes seem two-fold. One is that most people consume content in apps, so most creators create contents for that audience. TikTok, Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, etc are where users are, so it's where creators put their content for visibility. Related to this is, I feel, the switch to mobile, where the more limited UX of the device makes it a LOT easier to just stay in the same app rather than type URLs or m…

Re StumbleUpon: you might be interested in the "random page" feature of wiby.me: https://wiby.me/surprise/

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You should set your browser to always open pages in Reader View. Especially on mobile. If needed, you can easily turn it off for specific pages. This blocks all crap and leaves you with the text and images only.

I will give this a try. Thanks!

In iOS Safari you can then long-click the reader icon to jump out of reader mode on the current page.

If you want to make it permanent for that domain, you click the Reader icon -> Web page settings -> Disable automatic reader view.

Re: Where Have All the Websites Gone?

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See also: "Ask HN: Could you share your personal blog here?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36575081 (1014 points | 6 months ago | 1960 comments)

This could be a nice monthly HN post like the who’s hiring / who wants to be hired ones.

“What blogs did you post to in the last month?”

Re: Where Have All the Websites Gone?

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It feels like the web grew up into an bitter old fart who takes everything way to seriously. What's missing is the culture of "anonymity" where everyone was pretty much just a screen name and people did not give that much care to their long term reputations and the fall from that more or less started with facebooks real name policy, or rather when facebook stopped being an glorified phonebook and started being an con…

I think this is a consequence of elite takeover of the internet. The culture you describe still exists, but it's largely found in places considered unsavory and uncouth by mainstream organizations.

>> elite takeover of the internet.

Wasn't the internet solely the domain of the (techno) elite for a very long time? It's the masses that have wrecked what we had, the the "new" elite profiting off of them. Maybe the societal gains outweigh what we lost, but if you were part of the original elite 20+ years ago, you're now in a much worse place.

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I want more people to have link blogs. I have one in the sidebar of https://simonwillison.net/ which I've been running since November 2003. You can search through all 6,836 links here: https://simonwillison.net/search/?type=blogmark I can post things to it with a bookmarklet. It has an Atom feed. It's such a low-friction way of publishing. A lot of https://daringfireball.net works like this too. I also like https://w…

I love this idea, I've got a ton of links that I was going to add to a post at some point. I like the idea of having a whole separate section on the blog for that, with a feed. Very cool, I'll have to find some time to add something like this to my site.
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