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Where Have All the Websites Gone?

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Post by kridsdale1 »

troupo wrote: post #171
eshack94 wrote: post #169

> It’s Tuesday morning. The year is 2009. You’re just waking up after a long and boozy New Year’s Eve with friends. I digress, but I think the first day of the year in 2009 was Thursday, January 1st, 2009. Well-written post. I share the sentiment and I find myself longing for new ways to find creative/interesting content on the web. Seems like there are too many gatekeepers of content these days and it's hard to keep…

After long and boozy night? It might as well be Tuesday :)

For you, that was the worst hangover of your life. For me, it was Tuesday.

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Post by cpburns2009 »

dikei wrote: post #15

Isn't this how we classify web "generation"? * Web 1.0: independent websites, self-maintained, hard * Web 2.0: hosted platforms like blogs and social networks, easy, but rely on providers * Web 3.0: promise to free users from the platform providers but are mostly crypto scam currently.

No one seems to remember the original web 3.0 was the semantic web from almost 20 years ago. It in part enabled the news feed aggregation of modern social media.

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Post by tonymet »

Thanks to exponential growth there are still more websites than ever. The issue is indexing and how people consume content.

For a proof of concept try https://wiby.me/ -- which seems to be curated more like Yahoo's catalog of yore.

You can find traditional web content we just need more applications that index it properly.

The Google index is dominated by SEO-optimized [sic] clickbait and social media content is well understood to be low bar.

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Post by tonis2 »

I have been thinking exact same things sometimes, I want to view some random websites, but I don't know many anymore, only some tools, which is great, but not exiting.

I think it's cause there's no good Content Management system, there's wordpress, it's still very popular, but kind of bloated and hard so manage.

I haven't found any Headless CMS, that I could just self host and attach the data to my website :/

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Post by cloverich »

fullshark wrote: post #162
aethertron wrote: post #123

A personal site is a lonely place. That's why blogs, after an initial burst of creative energy, languish. People nowadays seeking online to fulfil their social inclinations go elsewhere, to the platforms better optimised to harness that social energy. Another reason blogs have languished: discussions come to an end, a point of exhaustion. When everything that's there to be said, has been. Retreading old ground is not…

The internet is a lonely place, all these substitutes for in person communication and interaction fail and will always fail. It's why we're more connected and more lonely than ever. Sure you can now find that person halfway around the world that agrees with you on some esoteric topic you care about, but that's not a real relationship.

Well, the apps aren't designed to cultivate that relationship is the thing. They are designed to drive content engagement -- doom scrolling is the ultimate goal of every major social media platform of today, because that is where the ad revenue is.

There's no technical reason apps can't be designed to connect you more meaningfully to individuals that you resonate with. The problem for them is once that starts to happen, you don't need the platform as much and your engagement with it drops. It requires a company that focuses on that, and not engagement / pure revenue, as a focus. I'd wager the main reason those companies haven't taken off is people like money. If you are good enough to build such a platform, you're also good enough to make 250k+ _today_. If you are currently making 80k, it is a very hard thing to turn down.

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Post by mangodrunk »

dpkirchner wrote: post #185
dividefuel wrote: post #159

The causes seem two-fold. One is that most people consume content in apps, so most creators create contents for that audience. TikTok, Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, etc are where users are, so it's where creators put their content for visibility. Related to this is, I feel, the switch to mobile, where the more limited UX of the device makes it a LOT easier to just stay in the same app rather than type URLs or m…

I'd add a third fold: the huge rise in garbage ads above, below, overlapping, and surrounding content. Facebook et al have ads, of course, but they are extremely "tame" by comparison. Renting out every pixel ruined many sites.

I agree with you, and I don’t understand why some of these small blogs on niche topics even have ads. How much are they making a month? I’d be surprised if it’s even $5 a month for many of them.

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Post by booleandilemma »

eshack94 wrote: post #169

> It’s Tuesday morning. The year is 2009. You’re just waking up after a long and boozy New Year’s Eve with friends. I digress, but I think the first day of the year in 2009 was Thursday, January 1st, 2009. Well-written post. I share the sentiment and I find myself longing for new ways to find creative/interesting content on the web. Seems like there are too many gatekeepers of content these days and it's hard to keep…

Too many nitpickers nowadays too.

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Post by gmiller123456 »

I've made the decision to give up app development and go back to plain old webapps. Google's requirement to update the "targetsdk" for every app appears to be a "war on free", as only people making money off their apps are willing to jump through such hoops. I expect the noose to tighten even more as more app developers comply. So rather than fight it, I decided to throw in the towel early. I expect Google will try to walk a fine line of getting the right number of developers to jump ship, but I'd expect to see a lot more hobbiests switching back to web development in the coming years.

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Post by adaptbrian »

Swizec wrote: post #193
zelphirkalt wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Way more content, maybe, but on platforms that are not made for long term retention and curation, but for attention span of a fruit fly and optimized for engagement. The content might get the quick giggle or wow, but then it has passed. TikTok and similar are not the kind of platform that I would search answers to questions on or that I would use to follow a hobby in depth. Perhaps my hobbies don't lend themselves to…

And yet I listened to a podcast once where a tax accountant explained that Instagram Search is her strongest lead pipeline. At my dayjob we do women’s health, actual clinics with real doctors. Many of our users come from Instagram and TikTok ads. Because yes people will in fact choose their doctor based on a good Instagram/TikTok presence. In fact any time I mention the brand to female friends who live in our target…

Wonder what that accountants ability to keep clients around looks like vs. Intentful Google searches, and what that market would look like.

You have to take the serious consideration that winning customers from tiktok is going to be a wildly different persona than from google.

Churn and burn practices are for folks who've not seen the 5th year of their used to be sustainable market crash when arbitrary platform dynamics change and they don't realize they've been working with the wrong type of client that whole time.

I work in Healthcare as well. It's just a giant farm so folks will take anyone who is alive and insured. I could see TokTik do well there.

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