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I doubt ever, consumers have been proven to select the cheapest airline ticket. The average once-a-year flier likely has no idea what aircraft they are even flying on.
I wonder what fraction of seats/revenue come from people who take one or fewer trips per year.
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You're catastrophizing a bit. This isn't an America problem it's a Boeing problem. American air travel is safer than it's ever been. Going years without a single fatality is now the norm, not an exception. The airlines are well run and do care deeply about safety. The regulators aren't perfect but generally do a good job. The NTSB is world-class. Boeing will continue to lose marketshare to Airbus and feel some pain w…
Working conditions in the USA have come to a point where many don't care because the company doesn't care about them. People are fired at will after working for 20+ years with zero shits given. There is zero loyalty and in return workers just don't care either. There are only so many checks and balances you can build in until this situation will catch up with you. Doesn't amazon have such a huge turn over that they a…
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My beef is that torque specs are for factory assembly. If you’re using new parts, sure, but once they’re old/re-used parts with some corrosion due to dissimilar metals, age or salt belt, you’re flying blind and probably undertorquing if going by the book. Given the amount of (soft) aluminum on aircraft, (737 is 80% aluminum), it would be insane to not precisely consider torque. Steel on steel is more forgiving.
Why would the softness matter for torque, if there has been some shift or compression since original install the torque should still ensure the correct pressure between the fitting, no?
e.g. any slight boogering of the threads of a used fastener could translate into rotational torque that doesn't end up being converted to a clamping force.
(or in more extreme instances, some fasteners are torque to yield, and change shape after their first use, and must be replaced. But I'll presume that's not what they were talking about here)
It seems there's a sense of malaise falling over everything and everyone in the USA. People at large simply cannot be bothered to care about anything, including torque specs for freakin' AIRLINERS
Privately-owned companies or worker-owned companies are more resilient to this problem because the nature of their existence means a stronger focus on long term goals. Though there are still issues with publicly owned companies exerting enough influence to acquire and subsequently destroy private companies. For example, Rite-Aid acquiring Bartell Drugs then going bankrupt and proceeding to shutter most Bartell Drug stores leaving Seattle with a deficit of pharmacies.
> Safety and quality were taking a second seat to schedule and cost.
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>People at large simply cannot be bothered to care about anything People care deeply about a lot of things, just not this. And why should they? When you have every business decision made either by private equity or public companies with a focus only on the next 90 days it turns out everything goes to shit. Wages are stagnant. Wealth inequality is massive. Our society is sick. Issues like this will only increase. Our…
Random aside: I looked up an Acela ticket this morning. $1000 for a first class ticket from DC to BOS. 6.5 hours. Same flight first class with Delta this week is $850. Also 6 hours with layover. Blows my mind first class rail travel is as much as first class air travel.
In my experience, in the UK, taking a train is more expensive than taking a flight (or driving, for that matter).
There were only 2 possible causes of the incident, either the bolts had been replaced with bolts made from an inappropriate material, so they broke, or the bolts had not been assembled correctly, and they became loose. It appears that the latter is what happened. Perhaps those who did the assembly of the doors at Boeing did not use the right kind of washers that are needed to prevent the unscrewing of the bolts, or t…
I wouldn't be so certain it's installation error or mfr defect of the fasteners...
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You're catastrophizing a bit. This isn't an America problem it's a Boeing problem. American air travel is safer than it's ever been. Going years without a single fatality is now the norm, not an exception. The airlines are well run and do care deeply about safety. The regulators aren't perfect but generally do a good job. The NTSB is world-class. Boeing will continue to lose marketshare to Airbus and feel some pain w…
Working conditions in the USA have come to a point where many don't care because the company doesn't care about them. People are fired at will after working for 20+ years with zero shits given. There is zero loyalty and in return workers just don't care either. There are only so many checks and balances you can build in until this situation will catch up with you. Doesn't amazon have such a huge turn over that they a…
You definitely have enough time to work at leisurely pace and assemble every part right. There's not much rushing going on there. If workers get away with doing dodgy work you have a QA issue.
Doesn’t this call into question the manufacturing of ALL 737 MAX’s including the 7 and 8 since they must use the same manufacturing process?
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My beef is that torque specs are for factory assembly. If you’re using new parts, sure, but once they’re old/re-used parts with some corrosion due to dissimilar metals, age or salt belt, you’re flying blind and probably undertorquing if going by the book. Given the amount of (soft) aluminum on aircraft, (737 is 80% aluminum), it would be insane to not precisely consider torque. Steel on steel is more forgiving.
> If you’re using new parts, sure, but once they’re old/re-used parts Most service manuals require new bolts, fasteners and washers for torque-critical parts.