This is reassuring news to me, as someone who has opted for Airbus over Boeing (and even paid extra for it) whenever given the choice since the first 737-MAX crashes in 2017.
United finds loose bolts on plug doors during 737 Max 9 inspections
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#32At what point do consumers en-masse refuse to fly on these aircraft, if ever? When there's a few more fatal crashes?
The more likely scenario is that the Chinese or Europeans will ground the new 737s until some very expensive fix is put into place and not accept any workarounds. That would probably make a difference.
FYI: https://qz.com/1569865/china-grounds-737-max-8-after-ethiopi...
Re: United finds loose bolts on plug doors during 737 Max 9 inspections
#33It seems there's a sense of malaise falling over everything and everyone in the USA. People at large simply cannot be bothered to care about anything, including torque specs for freakin' AIRLINERS
Re: United finds loose bolts on plug doors during 737 Max 9 inspections
#34On at least 5 airplanes? Of one airline? Are loose bolts a minor issue, or is it as insane as it reads?
No, it's as insane as it reads. It means people were careless and sloppy during assembly. Think of it like seeing "one cockroach in your kitchen." It's not one cockroach. You just haven't opened up the rest of the walls.
Lots of stuff is assembled consistently and carefully “wrong”, but as specified.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
My money is on the window. It was compromised and then the plug/bolts/flanges structure was ripped out of the body.
How would compromise of the window encourage the plug to be ripped out?
EDIT: Maybe the bolts have a really high shearing tolerance, but not as good of a tensile pull?
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#36On at least 5 airplanes? Of one airline? Are loose bolts a minor issue, or is it as insane as it reads?
No, it's as insane as it reads. It means people were careless and sloppy during assembly. Think of it like seeing "one cockroach in your kitchen." It's not one cockroach. You just haven't opened up the rest of the walls.
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#37Re: United finds loose bolts on plug doors during 737 Max 9 inspections
#38It seems there's a sense of malaise falling over everything and everyone in the USA. People at large simply cannot be bothered to care about anything, including torque specs for freakin' AIRLINERS
The fact that people would share this and it didn't curb the amount of business and referrals he got just proved to me what you've said for the longest time.
People don't like to be troubled with details and they'd rather be ignorant of them.
Re: United finds loose bolts on plug doors during 737 Max 9 inspections
#39This is reassuring news to me, as someone who has opted for Airbus over Boeing (and even paid extra for it) whenever given the choice since the first 737-MAX crashes in 2017.
How is this reassuring?! Are you sure you don't mean "vindicating" or similar? Hard to understand how anyone could feel reassured by this.
Re: United finds loose bolts on plug doors during 737 Max 9 inspections
#40On at least 5 airplanes? Of one airline? Are loose bolts a minor issue, or is it as insane as it reads?
No, it's as insane as it reads. It means people were careless and sloppy during assembly. Think of it like seeing "one cockroach in your kitchen." It's not one cockroach. You just haven't opened up the rest of the walls.
Maybe. Could also be incorrect torque specs, bad parts, unexpected vibration in that area, etc.
Edit: Yes, none of these are good either. Just saying there are many possibilities.