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On at least 5 airplanes? Of one airline? Are loose bolts a minor issue, or is it as insane as it reads?
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Those claims that it was maintenance is a bit bizarre considering these were brand new craft, and that panel isn't exactly a wear item. (ofc, some wear with each pressurization cycle, but I digress) It'd be different if it was an engine issue on a 20+ year old plane. But still, this isn't anything like the prior MAX issue - and frankly could have just as easily happened to any manufacturer like Airbus. I don't think…
Sure, other than being with a variant of the same model of plane built by the same manufacturer, this latest issue is nothing like the prior issue.
Could AI help firms like Boeing perform more robust and automated safety checks? I'm curious about how much an issue like this can be chalked up to human error vs. poor, semi-automated QA.
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Maybe the plugs aren't flanged enough? If the walls are mostly flat you could see the bolts being load-bearing.
My money is on the window. It was compromised and then the plug/bolts/flanges structure was ripped out of the body.
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There is no room for fanboy-ism in airliner design. It's a business that should be approached in a manner that is at once, sober and serious. If there are problems with this airliner, let's get them all on the table and start working through them one by one. I thought this is what the FAA and Boeing were meant to do? (Even in the face of monetary losses). But the mounting evidence of a rubber-stamp approval regime is concerning.
We really do need to have cooler more dispassionate heads take things back in hand here. I think a move away from the money-men, the fanboys, and the doomsday alarmists is overdue at this point.
At what point do consumers en-masse refuse to fly on these aircraft, if ever? When there's a few more fatal crashes?
Unfortunately consumers don't have much choice, the airline can change which type operates a flight at any time. However longer term if Boeing's reputation keeps getting worse that can motivate buying decisions by the airlines. That change will be a very slow one, because fleet changes cost a lot of money in training crews, changing maintenance etc. For example KLM is changing their short-haul fleet from the 737 NG t…
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One was rightly pointing out that we should investigate first before jumping to any conclusions and the other two were pointing out that Alaskan had maintenance failures which is also true.
And is anything actually proven yet ?
Could AI help firms like Boeing perform more robust and automated safety checks? I'm curious about how much an issue like this can be chalked up to human error vs. poor, semi-automated QA.
At what point do consumers en-masse refuse to fly on these aircraft, if ever? When there's a few more fatal crashes?