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Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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I disable auto-lock. The primary reason for this is that I’m extremely intentional about using my phone. If I have some content open, I don’t want the screen turning off. This is an atypical choice, but I always lock when I’m done and don’t encounter any issues from this choice.

Same here. I get irritated when I see people put down their phone without locking it, only to realize theirs will auto-lock. That said, from now on I'll probably have auto-lock turned on when flying.

> That said, from now on I'll probably have auto-lock turned on when flying.

I think you are far far more likely to have a random cardiac arrest or stroke while you are looking at your phone than have it ripped out of your hands in an airplane. The former has happened to several otherwise healthy people I know and the plane thing happened to a few people ever.

Also do you turn it on while you are a passenger in a car or bus?

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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post #210

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I disable auto-lock. The primary reason for this is that I’m extremely intentional about using my phone. If I have some content open, I don’t want the screen turning off. This is an atypical choice, but I always lock when I’m done and don’t encounter any issues from this choice.

Lineage OS has this cool feature called "Caffeine" which is a quick settings button. When tapped, it temporarily increases the lock screen timeout. Pressing it again increases it more. Long pressing it will make it infinite. It will reset once the user manually locks. I find it quite useful in cases like reading

I second this, a short timeout for security + caffeine for convenience is what all phones should have in my opinion.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Automatically switches to last words recorder mode.

Reminds me of the skydiver who dropped his camera and you can watch it spin and eventually land in a pigpond where a pig investigates it. It’s on YouTube.

I love that video

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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post #318

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I have to ask, why? I use the default settings without issue. Face ID is near instant, and I have almost never had my phone go to sleep when i don’t want it to.

I never forget to turn off my phone, probably because I'm so used to pushing the off button when I lay it down because I disabled auto lock on my first iOS device (1st gen iPod Touch). Maybe it's better now (by registering attention via face id), but back then I often found myself keeping something open as a reference and then having the screen turn off when I needed it. edit: I just checked and indeed the settings s…

What about when someone drives by on a motorbike and snatches it from your hand. A common way to steal phones.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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post #401

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Must be a U-shaped curve of survival rate versus drop height.

It's well established that intermediate fall heights are the most dangerous, since the phone doesn't have enough time to rotate into the optimal landing position and brace for landing. Or was that for cats?

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Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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post #171

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> the phone itself is fragile Modern electronics are quite the opposite of fragile, I'd say.

It's not a huge leap of faith to assume they mean the phone as in the thing covered in glass and fragile touchscreen.

> It's not a huge leap of faith to assume they mean the phone as in the thing covered in glass and fragile touchscreen.

Not all phones are fragile. Ones with bodies made out of glass or aluminium are, ones with "nice to glide your finger along" glass screens can be. But those "features" are found in expensive phones.

Cheap phones, with their plastic bodies, flexible touch screens and removable batteries that tend to leave the case on impact are remarkably robust. As in "riding bike at 30km / hour, phone leaps out of pocket smashes into concrete gutter, covers and battery fly this way and that and so you have to dodge traffic to retrieve them" are perfectly fine after the incident, after reassembly. In fact on of my phones survived multiple rounds of that treatment.

Cheap phones being robust and expensive ones being delicate is a bug bear of mine. The one caveat is cheap phones are never water proof.

Cheap or expensive, I've never see the phones electronics damaged by an impact.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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post #445

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In general I agree with you, but > Imagine going to show someone a recent photo and something you didn't take pops up instead. this is not true. The camera app opened from the lock screen just shows recent pictures taken with the camera opened from the lock screen. So if you lock the phone, then start the camera from the lock screen, there is no existing photos there.

You're describing a different scenario. I'm talking about someone grabbing a locked phone left on a table, taking an unwanted picture (say of their genitals, just to make it problematic), and then you find out when you go to show someone your recents. One should not be able to modify the contents of a locked device but you can add photos on an iPhone. The recourse is to disable the Camera app via Screen Time and use…

> You're describing a different scenario. I'm talking about someone grabbing a locked phone left on a table, taking an unwanted picture (say of their genitals, just to make it problematic), and then you find out when you go to show someone your recents.

Oh, yeah, you're right, I definitely didn't read it that way.

Also, I can't really say I've ever had that specific problem, but I guess it makes sense for some people to want to protect themselves from that.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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post #78

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They could have before, back when I worked for apple support I took call from someone who was in a small prop plane crash and called in because the laptop was still intact but the screen cracked; they ended up comping the entire thing (and some more stuff) because the story was good.

You’re telling me I just need some radical stories to get better support? Noted.

Absolutely. There's a bunch of key words you can still say to talk to engineering if you want to - but they will hang up when they know you are full of shit.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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post #390

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We already legally force it in almost every state on public roads because it's not about you, it's about everybody else minding their own business getting killed by your choices. Doesn't take much FOD on the highway for your unbuckled body to slam into something and now you have a driverless vehicle. Also every else in your car should be bucked too so you're not bumping noggins.

I find this line of reasoning extremely far fetched. Is this how far you're willing to go to boss other people around to fit your preferences?

You find the reasoning behind the laws we've enacted far fetched.

Or is it just the job of the survivors or your bullshit to sue your estate into non-existence?

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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post #350

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This is a non issue if putting on the seat belt fixes it.

See, now you're using the seat belt as an excuse to not avoid other risks. Avoiding a car crash in the first place would definitely be the better alternative.

Are you a teenager, because this line thinking crosses into the territory of "I don't need a seatbelt, I'd just use my arms to stop my ass from getting flung out of the window, while having zero clue how physics works.

Do you think of the 6 million police reported auto crashes in 2022 (in the US if you're not from here) that most if not all the people involved would have rather not been in an accident in the first place?

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