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Re: What PWA Can Do Today

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Post by bensecure »

JimDabell wrote: post #65
wojciechpolak wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Web Share Target API (manifest: share_target) - it allows a website to specify itself as a share target. Of course, it's not yet supported on iOS.

This is not a web standard. Google wrote the specification and only Google have implemented it. It’s an unofficial draft: > Editors: > Matt Giuca (Google Inc.) > Eric Willigers (Google Inc.) > Status of This Document > This specification was published by the Web Incubator Community Group. It is not a W3C Standard nor is it on the W3C Standards Track — https://w3c.github.io/web-share-target/level-2/ Firefox doesn’t im…

The only relevant browsers on mobile are google's and apple's, and (modern) web standards are created by enough popular browsers implementing them. Literally all it would take for this to be a reliable web standard would be apple choosing to implement it.

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

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Post by worik »

hotgeart wrote: post #56
pjmlp wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PWAs are the next step in mobile Web, for most forms over data apps, it isn't really needed. When I came back to Web/Distributed Systems after my stint dealing with Windows desktop, all the applications I have been involved only had Web frontends, including for mobile devices, not Web views, the actual browser. They managed perfectly fine.

> PWAs are the next step in mobile Web For subscription app may be, but all ads revenue websites will reject it.

> but all ads revenue websites will reject it.

I reject them

I cannot tolerate apps with ads

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

SigmundA wrote: post #24

The only thing holding me back from using PWA's right now is tabbed mode [1]. Browser tabs are so useful and having them open in new windows or in the system browser is a bad experience. Not sure why this is taking so long, there have been prototypes for years. Not like its even a security question just bringing over a UI that already exists in the browser. https://developer.chrome.com/docs/capabilities/tabbed-applic…

Tabbed isnt enough for me. I don't want an app. I want a website. I want my user-agent! My user agent is what I know, affords me URLs & extensions and a powerful UI with lots of options.

The PWA thing seems sick to me. Henry Ford listens to market research and rebuilds his car as a mechanized horse. For me, the UX is strictly worse in every way. (And I already knew how to put links to webpages on my home screens).

There does seem to be a browser display mode, but it's up to the app maker to decide for the user what mode the app will be in. Why?!

> Progressive Web Apps can run in various display modes determined by the display property in the web app manifest. Examples are fullscreen, standalone, minimal-ui, and browser.

It makes me so sad how much lesser a person a user of a PWA is. The utter lack of user agent, being cast to whatever is provided by the maker, is a horrifying loss. All to ape what felt to me like the descending losing old-guard technologies.

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

scarface_74 wrote: post #41
sberder wrote: post #18

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Thanks for putting it in context, the Bluetooth API has been a big source of frustration in my exploration of PWAs. So many simple setup apps wouldn't need to be native. A cross platform Bluetooth API for the web would provide really easy PoC with MCUs.

Yes I really want random websites to have access to Bluetooth

They're not random websites though. They're apps that you have installed. And given permissions to.

The gatekeeping/FUD/wringing-of-pewrls over this seems absurd, cruel, and most of all arbitrary to me. Insubstantial naysaying.

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

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Post by rchaud »

hotgeart wrote: post #56
pjmlp wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PWAs are the next step in mobile Web, for most forms over data apps, it isn't really needed. When I came back to Web/Distributed Systems after my stint dealing with Windows desktop, all the applications I have been involved only had Web frontends, including for mobile devices, not Web views, the actual browser. They managed perfectly fine.

> PWAs are the next step in mobile Web For subscription app may be, but all ads revenue websites will reject it.

"ad-driven websites" and PWAs aren't targeting the same user. Even if they were, there's nothing stopping a PWA developer from adding a Google Ads script to the markup.

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

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Post by dannymoerkerke »

comex wrote: post #113

How typical of PWAs that even a demonstration site, which should demonstrate the best that PWAs can be, has a glaring UX bug on iOS. Namely: if you swipe from the sides of the screen to go back/forward, you get a duplicate animation. If you swipe back from B to A, once the native (interactive) slide animation finishes, the page then jumps back to B and then does another (noninteractive) slide animation to A. Fixing t…

I’m the creator of this and haven’t been able to reliably fix this so far but I’ll give your suggestion a try.

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

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Post by synergy20 »

the elephant in the room is the lack of support from Apple, by this alone, its apps store should be legally challenged, before that happens, it's hard to sell PWA, which is great on a tech standpoint.

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

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Post by bbor »

andreyvit wrote: post #147
comex wrote: post #113

How typical of PWAs that even a demonstration site, which should demonstrate the best that PWAs can be, has a glaring UX bug on iOS. Namely: if you swipe from the sides of the screen to go back/forward, you get a duplicate animation. If you swipe back from B to A, once the native (interactive) slide animation finishes, the page then jumps back to B and then does another (noninteractive) slide animation to A. Fixing t…

Yes! And the visuals are horrific too, just look at that tabbar. If anything, it’s a showcase of just how hard it’s gonna be to build a good app this way.

Is there anything about native apps or conventional websites/apps that would improve the visuals?
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