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Post by aaroninsf »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #239
Shank wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disable auto-lock. The primary reason for this is that I’m extremely intentional about using my phone. If I have some content open, I don’t want the screen turning off. This is an atypical choice, but I always lock when I’m done and don’t encounter any issues from this choice.

I do the same. I make sure to use FaceID, though. I also almost never use apps like dedicated banking apps or social media apps; instead, using Safari. I know folks that don’t lock, and don’t use Face/Touch ID, because convenience (or paranoia). I’m not sure that’s a good idea. We have our whole lives in these devices, and they could do a lot of damage. There’s an old movie, called Taking Care of Business [0], where…

The idea of our lives being in/on our phones, is an animating plot mechanism in Accelerando( by Charles Stross: a tech executive loses their and is unable to function, most memory and executive functions having been delegated to it; and a kid who finds it, becomes correspondingly empowered.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Post by K2L8M11N2 »

9front wrote: post #408

When did Mr. Bates, the X poster, find the phone? The time shows 2:21 and the picture was taken during daylight. Is that 2:21AM or 2:21PM? If in 12hr mode I'd expect the later.

In 24h mode it would show as 02:21.

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Post by mint2 »

Shank wrote: post #210
imgabe wrote: post #163

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It's crazy to me that the phone hasn't locked automatically. Do people really walk around with their phones set to never lock and turn the screen off? Mine times out after 5 minutes.

I disable auto-lock. The primary reason for this is that I’m extremely intentional about using my phone. If I have some content open, I don’t want the screen turning off. This is an atypical choice, but I always lock when I’m done and don’t encounter any issues from this choice.

If someone grabs your phone, welcome to issues. Or you drop your phone when distracted by something. Both unlikely, yes but not impossible. Similar to wearing a seat belt.

I found someone’s Apple Watch that had no password. I could have done a ton of nefarious things if I’d been inclined. Had a different person picked it up, they might have had all their accounts hijacked.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Post by mint2 »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #239
Shank wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disable auto-lock. The primary reason for this is that I’m extremely intentional about using my phone. If I have some content open, I don’t want the screen turning off. This is an atypical choice, but I always lock when I’m done and don’t encounter any issues from this choice.

I do the same. I make sure to use FaceID, though. I also almost never use apps like dedicated banking apps or social media apps; instead, using Safari. I know folks that don’t lock, and don’t use Face/Touch ID, because convenience (or paranoia). I’m not sure that’s a good idea. We have our whole lives in these devices, and they could do a lot of damage. There’s an old movie, called Taking Care of Business [0], where…

If you use email apps, you might as well be using banking apps.

If they have access to the recovery email and your phone then they have the keys to the house anyway.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Post by pantalaimon »

lxgr wrote: post #401
mensetmanusman wrote: post #387

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Must be a U-shaped curve of survival rate versus drop height.

It's well established that intermediate fall heights are the most dangerous, since the phone doesn't have enough time to rotate into the optimal landing position and brace for landing. Or was that for cats?

It takes the phone some time to switch into airplane mode and deploy the landing gear.

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Post by Snow_Falls »

codr7 wrote: post #423
Snow_Falls wrote: post #365

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Unfortunately, not wearing a seat belt isn't a risk borne just by the one in the seat. There have been cases of people flying out of their window and battering someone with their body due to not wearing a seat belt. Of course, everything carries a risk of harm to someone else, its a matter of where to draw the line.

Yeah, but these are people in the same car who are very likely in agreement about whatever risks.

You misunderstand, its the person in the car you hit that would be knocked by the flying driver.

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Post by orev »

ryandrake wrote: post #418
kpw94 wrote: post #412

My guess is, given state of the charging connector still attached but ripped off ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38914210 ): The entire thing fell out of plane (phone + charging cable plugged), then landed in a tree, where the charging cable got tangled in branches and that's when phone broke out of it and fell in grass. So phone was able to release kinetic energy in 2 big events (+a few branches hit maybe), n…

I'm surprised it didn't break past the strain relief. Everyone with an iPhone has a handful of charging cables that end up like [1]. That's where they tend to fail first. 1: https://www.engadget.com/apple-patent-application-frayed-cab...

I’ve never had a cable break like that. Many people just don’t know how to handle cables and treat them like rope without any knowledge of bend radius, internal wire twists, etc. (and don’t care if they crush them).

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Post by rainbowzootsuit »

topkai22 wrote: post #386

The charging cable was attached and ripped out with the phone, so it probably functioned as a tail, reducing the velocity a bit. Still, it wouldn’t be much. Impressive survivability by the phone.

Probably close to the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow.

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Post by topkai22 »

mbauman wrote: post #395
topkai22 wrote: post #386

The charging cable was attached and ripped out with the phone, so it probably functioned as a tail, reducing the velocity a bit. Still, it wouldn’t be much. Impressive survivability by the phone.

What remained of the charging cable was not much of a cable — it was barely the connector that remained. https://nitter.net/SeanSafyre/status/1744247194448961725#m

Ahh, clearly I was wrong then. Truly impressive.

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Post by codr7 »

Snow_Falls wrote: post #436
codr7 wrote: post #423

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but these are people in the same car who are very likely in agreement about whatever risks.

You misunderstand, its the person in the car you hit that would be knocked by the flying driver.

Really, that's the risk you're telling yourself you're preventing by bossing other people around?
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