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Re: What PWA Can Do Today

#91
PWAs to me sound like "we want everyone to use the same OS (in this case something like ChromeOS), because that's more productive for us".

I get that Google pushes for PWAs because that's how they conquer the OS world. But why do individuals push for that? Because they don't know anything other than webtech and don't want to learn? Have a look at Kotlin and Swift guys, it's kinda cool!

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

#92
post #85

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Another API that Google implemented that Mozilla and Apple made similar objections to is WebUSB.

Very useful for flashing microcontrollers and devices without need of native apps. No installation, no drivers, works cross platform.

No doubt, but Google probably could've worked with Mozilla and Apple to figure out an approach that addressed their concerns instead of disregarding them and implementing it as-is.

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

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What's with the FUD. What else besides PWAs promise to free everyone from app store rent and anticompetitive policies? PWAs would also open the doors to new mobile OSs beyond Google or apple control.

I think web apps are great. The average brand has no business making a mobile app when an web application would do. It's the "progressive" part I have a problem with. Web apps revolutionized our idea of what an application can do; everything in PWA makes web applications worse, not better. Just to take a simple example, when I want to visit Hacker news I just type n in the address bar of my iPad and click on the auto…

What are you even talking about? PWAs are an option on top of an ordinary web app. I guess all PWAs can be opened in the browser without "installing" them. Also "competing with all other apps" is the fault of OS built-in search. Nothing to do with PWA

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

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post #91

PWAs to me sound like "we want everyone to use the same OS (in this case something like ChromeOS), because that's more productive for us". I get that Google pushes for PWAs because that's how they conquer the OS world. But why do individuals push for that? Because they don't know anything other than webtech and don't want to learn? Have a look at Kotlin and Swift guys, it's kinda cool!

> But why do individuals push for that?

Because we don't have the resources to build a native app for every OS out there.

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

#95
post #91

PWAs to me sound like "we want everyone to use the same OS (in this case something like ChromeOS), because that's more productive for us". I get that Google pushes for PWAs because that's how they conquer the OS world. But why do individuals push for that? Because they don't know anything other than webtech and don't want to learn? Have a look at Kotlin and Swift guys, it's kinda cool!

I’m looking to release two web apps as PWAs. This will make the experience close to native on iOS and android without going through the app stores.

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

#96
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very useful for flashing microcontrollers and devices without need of native apps. No installation, no drivers, works cross platform.

No doubt, but Google probably could've worked with Mozilla and Apple to figure out an approach that addressed their concerns instead of disregarding them and implementing it as-is.

Maybe I remember it wrong, but I think Mozilla said it is unacceptable in any form and they will not even consider it. I don't like the google way either, but Mozilla is stubborn here and Apple fights for control over app market.

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

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post #91

PWAs to me sound like "we want everyone to use the same OS (in this case something like ChromeOS), because that's more productive for us". I get that Google pushes for PWAs because that's how they conquer the OS world. But why do individuals push for that? Because they don't know anything other than webtech and don't want to learn? Have a look at Kotlin and Swift guys, it's kinda cool!

I’m looking to release two web apps as PWAs. This will make the experience close to native on iOS and android without going through the app stores.

How do you release them? You don't have to go through the Play Store to release an Android native app, and I think the EU is making it change for iOS.

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

#98

It's kinda sad that the website doesn't prominently display which features have "universal" support across iOS and Android. The whole point of PWAs is to provide cross platforms apps so if a feature isn't available on all/most platforms, I don't think it's fair to say that it's really usable at all in your PWA.

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Re: What PWA Can Do Today

#99
post #91

PWAs to me sound like "we want everyone to use the same OS (in this case something like ChromeOS), because that's more productive for us". I get that Google pushes for PWAs because that's how they conquer the OS world. But why do individuals push for that? Because they don't know anything other than webtech and don't want to learn? Have a look at Kotlin and Swift guys, it's kinda cool!

> But why do individuals push for that? Because we don't have the resources to build a native app for every OS out there.

Are you using Windows? I am happy that the people who contributed Linux/BSD/Android/iOS did not have your mentality, otherwise I would be forced to use Windows everywhere.

Re: What PWA Can Do Today

#100
post #91

PWAs to me sound like "we want everyone to use the same OS (in this case something like ChromeOS), because that's more productive for us". I get that Google pushes for PWAs because that's how they conquer the OS world. But why do individuals push for that? Because they don't know anything other than webtech and don't want to learn? Have a look at Kotlin and Swift guys, it's kinda cool!

"Cool" is not a great reason. Only having to develop something once that serves all users is great, though. Personally, I cannot stand apps, I only use them when absolutely required, using a PWA gets you all the security of the browser (relatively speaking, but it's a lot more secure than a from scratch black box, and look at goon moves like Facebook embedding a browser that retains third party site interactions) and as a developer and user I can use my own extensions and general browser features.
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