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Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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Post by ryandrake »

s_dev wrote: post #23

I'd be in favour of removing meat subsidies. If the 'true' price of steak or a burger was ten times higher people would eat it for special occasions and not every day with every meal. It's telling and hypocritical how many meat eating 'libertarians' are in favour of government handouts to preserve their food eating habits rather than letting the market do it's work. I'm a meat eater but I'll concede that those subsid…

I like the motivation, but I don't think it could work in practice. Government never seems to be able to effectively "crack down on commercial X but allow individual to do X". People are too crafty and corporations hire lots of lawyers. They will always find a way to follow the letter of the law and get around the spirit of the law. Suddenly, there's an army of "individuals with fishing rods that are totally not employees" who through a totally legit web of contractor relationships and transactions, all happen to deliver their fish to the commercial fish company for them to sell.

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Post by selimthegrim »

TheCryptoBro wrote: post #2

Disruption of the food chain, cultural blow and sighs of disappointed foodies worldwide. Hilsa, a fish from the Bengali delta (India and Bangladesh), periodically has similar crises, but seemed to be dredging along its cherished existence. Here is hoping that the Tuna fisheries will pick up a thing or two from that brood and execute some good measures.

Relative of hilsa is in Indus River so there is some genetic backup.

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Post by jjcm »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #15

I suspect that in 50 years, few people will be eating any seafood that isn't cultivated (aquaculture). Not out of choice, and not because of changing cultural values (it is tasty, after all). But because there's just none left. Saw a headline on reddit the other day, $800,000 for a single bluefin tuna. Granted, it was large (over 500 lbs), but you don't hold auctions with winning bids approaching a million dollars on…

These crazy prices are typically bought for the advertising of having paid those prices, they aren’t a reflection of cost of the goods. The 800k fish was the first fish auctioned in the new year, which gets a lot of news cycles given the importance of the auction in Japan.

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Post by beacon294 »

wkat4242 wrote: post #14
lgkk wrote: post #4

As someone who eats almost exclusively vegan I think it would be great as the whole world faces these issues, we see lots of switches to eating tofu or plant based foods. Way cheaper. Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. And far healthier since most vegans and vegetarians live long and healthy lives compared to other groups. Poke tastes great with tofu btw. We shouldn’t destroy the oceans. Anyway I’m bracing for the inevi…

> Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. Nah you can eat just as bad vegan food. Most vegan burgers are just fat patties much worse than those made of lean beef. As with any type of food it depends on the choices you make within the class and the amount of it. I think the reason vegans and vegetarians are healthier is mainly because they are more conscious of what they're eating in the first place. And depending on where yo…

They have lower saturated fat than lean beef, good protein content and blend, and overall less strain on the organs.

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Post by thih9 »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #22
lgkk wrote: post #4

As someone who eats almost exclusively vegan I think it would be great as the whole world faces these issues, we see lots of switches to eating tofu or plant based foods. Way cheaper. Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. And far healthier since most vegans and vegetarians live long and healthy lives compared to other groups. Poke tastes great with tofu btw. We shouldn’t destroy the oceans. Anyway I’m bracing for the inevi…

> Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. Why can't someone get as fat and unhealthy with a vegan diet? I'm friends with vegans who eat a LOT of processed foods - Gardein crispy tenders, Carl's Jr. for Beyond Burgers, etc. > And far healthier since most vegans and vegetarians live long and healthy lives compared to other groups. How much of this is attributable to a specific diet vs highlighting that those who care about wha…

> Why can't someone get as fat and unhealthy with a vegan diet?

Don’t know about “unhealthy”, but “fat” is actually less likely, according to a research:

“our results suggest that self-identified semivegetarian, lactovegetarian, and vegan women have a lower risk of overweight and obesity than do omnivorous women. The advice to consume more plant foods and less animal products may help individuals control their weight.”

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000291652...

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Post by erichmond »

lgkk wrote: post #4

As someone who eats almost exclusively vegan I think it would be great as the whole world faces these issues, we see lots of switches to eating tofu or plant based foods. Way cheaper. Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. And far healthier since most vegans and vegetarians live long and healthy lives compared to other groups. Poke tastes great with tofu btw. We shouldn’t destroy the oceans. Anyway I’m bracing for the inevi…

To be fair, you set yourself up for the downvote.

There is no science to backup the vegan diet is "far healthier". Also, if the entire world stopped eating meat, we'd have a series of other problems to deal with.

Just make intellectually honest arguments and try and win that way. It's a much better way to "convert" people to your cause.

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Post by selimthegrim »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #15

I suspect that in 50 years, few people will be eating any seafood that isn't cultivated (aquaculture). Not out of choice, and not because of changing cultural values (it is tasty, after all). But because there's just none left. Saw a headline on reddit the other day, $800,000 for a single bluefin tuna. Granted, it was large (over 500 lbs), but you don't hold auctions with winning bids approaching a million dollars on…

An edible pokeball would be something

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Post by hardwaregeek »

rolobio wrote: post #34
thfuran wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could start eating jellyfish to pick up the slack.

Yes, that is the second half of the documentary. They were trying to come up with delicious recipes to take advantage of the situation. I don't imagine I would like to eat jellyfish either, but I would certainly give it a try.

The Chinese prepare it quite well! It's great with some chili oil in a salad
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