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Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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The Quest is fully cordless whereas the Vision Pro has a cord that goes to a battery pack that you wear on your waist. Though neither device requires you to be tethered to a computer.

Oh I didn't realize that. I thought all VR up to this point required a computer video card. I'm out of the loop.

Even the original Oculus Quest had an untethered mode, and didn't even require an external battery pack. That was released in May 2019.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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I won’t buy it because I don’t have any use it for it. But $3500 for a gadget is not crazy. I look back at what some of my computer set ups cost over the years in non inflation adjusted terms - An Apple //e with a duo disk drive, a green screen monitor, and a dot matrix printer in 1986 was $3000 - A Mac LC II with 10 MB RAM, an 80MB hard drive, a laser printer a little 12 inch monitor, and a //e card with a separate…

You can buy 7 Quest 3s for the price. Or 14 Quest 2s. How many people did what you did though? Were those all Apple branded monitors + printers? There were much cheaper alternatives in the same time frame. I paid full price for a 3DS on day one, doesn't mean it was the right price for it to be a success.

I'm not telling you it's worth it.

I do not own Apple stock, I don't work for them, and I'm not buying one (although I'll be watching with great interest)

However.... whether or not you think any of these products are worth it, the Apple Vision Pro is objectively pretty far ahead of the Quest 2/3 in terms of capability.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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I know a lot of people are rightfully concerned with the viability of this product, but I'm unbelievably excited! Definitely going to be pre-ordering one and picking it up on release day if I can! I'm sure it won't be perfect or anything, but I'm mostly just stoked about the possibilities I see with this thing.

You will pre-order a 3.5k device without even looking at what it is first? That's just inconceivable to me, maybe I'm just not rich enough?

Who else is going to make the 10,000 unboxing/reaction videos on YouTube?

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Yes, there is doubt they will sell out. How many $3500 things does Apple sell? Most of what they sell doesn't come close. There's no obvious business need for a Vision Pro unlike a $3500 MacBook Pro config either. And a Quest 3 is a much closer competitor to the Vision Pro than a Blu F92 5G is to a iPhone 15 Pro Max...

Does it have less space than the Quest and no wireless and therefore will be lame? (Deep cut)

Do you think the iPod would have been the same sales success if it cost 700% more than a Nomad instead of being basically the same price? $399 for 5GB iPod, $500 for 6GB Nomad?

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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> I trust Apple-made lenses a lot more than any strip-mall optician. Who said anything about strip mall opticians? At least they let you swap the lenses. Will they do the unthinkable and let the iPad be multiuser as well?

There are lot more strip mall opticians than there are expert craftspeople of lenses. Apple's lenses will be fine... probably much better than fine.

You make it sound like opticians hand-hew lenses from blocks of glass with various levels of craftsmanship. AFAICT, they take measurements and send the prescriptions off to be made by specialist manufacturer. Glasses are regulated medical devices with real oversight, not some rinky-dink industry that Apple can waltz in and be the best manufacturer by default.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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I know a lot of people are rightfully concerned with the viability of this product, but I'm unbelievably excited! Definitely going to be pre-ordering one and picking it up on release day if I can! I'm sure it won't be perfect or anything, but I'm mostly just stoked about the possibilities I see with this thing.

What do you see with it? I see a better in some ways (display, cameras, maybe finger tracking) VR headset than an alternative like the Quest 3 but also with some serious downsides, no controllers, insanely high price and potential weight issues because of all the metal/glass.

I see no indication that it's even usable as a PCVR device, like the Quest series.

I'm picking up a Pimax Crystal for that purpose. I'll probably get an AVP, but don't expect to be able to use it for gaming. That's not its purpose. It's a MacBook Pro built into a headset.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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While I don't plan to purchase one, I do feel a desire to buy an iPhone 15 Pro just so I can start capturing spatial video just in case this DOES succeed. I won't purchase one, because I'm always a few generations of iPhones behind, but the desire is there.

Journalists have written about viewing videos they shot with an iPhone on the headset.

> I Saw My Life in iPhone Spatial Video on Apple Vision Pro

https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/i-saw-my-iphone-spatial-...

> I got to experience my own Spatial Videos and photos on the Apple Vision Pro, and it was incredibly moving

https://www.thestreet.com/deals/apple-vision-pro-spatial-vid...

> Seeing your own spatial video on Vision Pro is an immersive trip – and I highly recommend it

https://www.techradar.com/computing/virtual-reality-augmente...

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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I trust Apple-made lenses a lot more than any strip-mall optician. Apple lenses will be worse than the best but far better than the average.

Zeiss is making them, not Apple

Precisely. Zeiss (almost always) makes very good lenses, which is why Apple selected them.

But I've had opticians do a poor job of getting me the prescription I need, and so the Zeiss lenses were way off.

I bet Apple will have this dialed in from the get-go.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Porn. Your going to use it for porn. Edit: geez, just don’t have a sense of humor here? Or is it the truth Then you’re downloading this because you’re embarrassed?

I feel like these tongue in cheek responses mentioning porn being the main use case are pretty cringy. It’s not that hard to accept that other people have different things in mind. Sheesh.

It was tongue in cheek, but it’s true. Just because you can do different things on It doesn’t mean that this is not gonna be a large component of it.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Percentages-of-Internet-...

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