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iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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it was found... unlocked and displaying Mail application. Sure this level of shock would have registered on its accelerometers, right? How come it did not do the obvious right thing from a security perspective, which is to lock itself?

I assume it partly depends on how much lateral velocity the phone had. If it landed at a good angle with respect to the train and "slid" away most of it's energy, then perhaps nothing unusual would be noticed. Anyways is it the obvious thing to lock a phone merely because of a large jolt?

Boeing doesn’t make trains. This phone fell out of the sky.

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It's crazy to me that the phone hasn't locked automatically. Do people really walk around with their phones set to never lock and turn the screen off? Mine times out after 5 minutes.

I disable auto-lock. The primary reason for this is that I’m extremely intentional about using my phone. If I have some content open, I don’t want the screen turning off. This is an atypical choice, but I always lock when I’m done and don’t encounter any issues from this choice.

I'm in the same boat. I disable auto-lock. However, it would be nice to have a setting for 30 minutes or an hour, but thankfully my battery will die before that's needed.

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Or maybe a speed limiter. You can’t go over 25mph until the seatbelt is fastened. That would let people move a car in the driveway or something minor, but force them to buckle to get on most roads.

Limiting speed (below highway speeds) can be incredibly dangerous. Not being able to merge at speed is a non starter.

This is a non issue if putting on the seat belt fixes it.

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The tweet said there was a broken off charging plug still in the phone. Maybe that kept it unlocked?

Some of us intentionally disable autolock - I know I have it off because I can’t stand the screen automatically turning off on me when I’m using it for reference material.

Can't you set it to only auto-lock when not on your person, near you or at place X, Y or Z? Seems there are so many options for targets to keep it unlocked (smartwatch, a place, movement, WiFi, ...) that disabling it seems unnecessary?

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In 1972 flight attendant Vesna Vulović survived falling from 33k feet [1] pinned inside the remains of the fuselage after an explosion destroyed her airplane mid-flight killing everyone else. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87

Thanks for sharing. I thought this was the most interesting paragraph:

“Air safety investigators attributed Vulović's survival to her being trapped by a food trolley in the DC-9's fuselage as it broke away from the rest of the aircraft and plummeted towards the ground. When the cabin depressurized, the passengers and other flight crew were blown out of the aircraft and fell to their deaths. Investigators believed that the fuselage, with Vulović pinned inside, landed at an angle in a heavily wooded and snow-covered mountainside, which cushioned the impact.[1][a] Vulović's physicians concluded that her history of low blood pressure caused her to pass out quickly after the cabin depressurized and kept her heart from bursting on impact.[7] Vulović said that she was aware of her low blood pressure before applying to become a flight attendant and knew that it would result in her failing her medical examination, but she drank an excessive amount of coffee beforehand and was accepted.[3]”

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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In 1972 flight attendant Vesna Vulović survived falling from 33k feet [1] pinned inside the remains of the fuselage after an explosion destroyed her airplane mid-flight killing everyone else. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87

Thanks for sharing. I thought this was the most interesting paragraph: “Air safety investigators attributed Vulović's survival to her being trapped by a food trolley in the DC-9's fuselage as it broke away from the rest of the aircraft and plummeted towards the ground. When the cabin depressurized, the passengers and other flight crew were blown out of the aircraft and fell to their deaths. Investigators believed tha…

Is there anything an excessive amount of coffee can’t fix?

It seems she’s the opposite of that Hawaii flight that lost the roof and one flight attendant.

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I have auto lock disabled, because I'm the one to decide when I don't need to look at my screen anymore. But that's different from not requiring faceid/passcode upon unlock.

I have to ask, why? I use the default settings without issue. Face ID is near instant, and I have almost never had my phone go to sleep when i don’t want it to.

I never forget to turn off my phone, probably because I'm so used to pushing the off button when I lay it down because I disabled auto lock on my first iOS device (1st gen iPod Touch). Maybe it's better now (by registering attention via face id), but back then I often found myself keeping something open as a reference and then having the screen turn off when I needed it.

edit: I just checked and indeed the settings screen says it watches for attention, so I'm willing to give it a try and enable auto unlock now...

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I solve that, by not doing banking with my phone. Social media and store loyalty apps are basically just PID harvesters. In fact, I have a couple of solitaire games that are constantly nagging me to join leaderboards and take community challenges. All my financial transactions are done with my Mac, which sits behind a fairly robust home network. I know, for certain, that banking apps are the #1 first target, for hack…

Where I live having the app for 2FA is mandatory for online banking unless you can convince them to give you a hardware TAN generator. So transferring money is actually much less convenient in the browser because everything I do has to be confirmed with my pin in the app, so I might as well just do it in the app directly and only login on one device instead of two. Of course this is actually "phone factor authenticat…

With a touch login on the phone and (say) google authenticator IMHO it's considerably less inconvenient to login into something online with the desktop than what Chase does to me. The phone is sitting right there anyway, and 6 digits to type in by hand is not that big a deal. I do it all the time.

Basically the phone is the 2FA generator.

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Where I live having the app for 2FA is mandatory for online banking unless you can convince them to give you a hardware TAN generator. So transferring money is actually much less convenient in the browser because everything I do has to be confirmed with my pin in the app, so I might as well just do it in the app directly and only login on one device instead of two. Of course this is actually "phone factor authenticat…

With a touch login on the phone and (say) google authenticator IMHO it's considerably less inconvenient to login into something online with the desktop than what Chase does to me. The phone is sitting right there anyway, and 6 digits to type in by hand is not that big a deal. I do it all the time. Basically the phone is the 2FA generator.

Does "the app" mean the site's app?
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