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Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Post by donkeyd »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #239
Shank wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disable auto-lock. The primary reason for this is that I’m extremely intentional about using my phone. If I have some content open, I don’t want the screen turning off. This is an atypical choice, but I always lock when I’m done and don’t encounter any issues from this choice.

I do the same. I make sure to use FaceID, though. I also almost never use apps like dedicated banking apps or social media apps; instead, using Safari. I know folks that don’t lock, and don’t use Face/Touch ID, because convenience (or paranoia). I’m not sure that’s a good idea. We have our whole lives in these devices, and they could do a lot of damage. There’s an old movie, called Taking Care of Business [0], where…

> I also almost never use apps like dedicated banking apps or social media apps; instead, using Safari.

Nearly every bank I know of recommends using apps over their website, since in general they're safer than using their websites. But I'm in The Netherlands and I don't know whether banking apps in different countries have the same security standards.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Post by chippiewill »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #38
labster wrote: post #5

Meanwhile, a 1 meter drop onto a wood floor cracked my screen. Device longevity is weird.

Used an online calculator — even a meter falls takes the phone up to 10 MPH. Elsewhere in this thread 20 to 40 MPH was given as the terminal velocity of a phone. FWIW.

Presumably the destructive energy on impact will be proportional to the square of the velocity. Even at 20mph that's 4x the energy, 40mph is 16x the energy.

Realistically I think it's because the way a phone gets damaged is highly dependent on:

- Is it in a case - Which orientation did it land in - What surface did it land on

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Post by walteweiss »

I don’t get it. The original tweet says the phone has been found near the road. Where are all the guesses that the phone fell from an airplane? Could it be someone opening email in the car, and someone else (a kid) to take the phone and throw it out of the window. Then they decide ‘oh, duck we don’t have time to look for it’ and continue their journey without the phone. That’s my first thought after reading the original tweet. But I see lots of ‘feel from the plane’ comments. Is it confirmed the phone fell? Of course I believe it survived the fall, considering I myself shuttered a number of iPhones by simply falling out of my pocket on a concrete floor.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Post by astrange »

donkeyd wrote: post #261
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do the same. I make sure to use FaceID, though. I also almost never use apps like dedicated banking apps or social media apps; instead, using Safari. I know folks that don’t lock, and don’t use Face/Touch ID, because convenience (or paranoia). I’m not sure that’s a good idea. We have our whole lives in these devices, and they could do a lot of damage. There’s an old movie, called Taking Care of Business [0], where…

> I also almost never use apps like dedicated banking apps or social media apps; instead, using Safari. Nearly every bank I know of recommends using apps over their website, since in general they're safer than using their websites. But I'm in The Netherlands and I don't know whether banking apps in different countries have the same security standards.

That is probably true because phones are less susceptible to keyloggers or evil browser extensions, but "security standards" have approximately nothing to do with it beyond "using HTTPS".

The security model for US banks is that it's illegal to do crimes to people's bank accounts. It doesn't involve "super secure apps", bank account numbers and credit card numbers are super insecure and there is little reason you should care about this insofar as you're not liable for leaking them.

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Post by insickness »

logifail wrote: post #228
danielfoster wrote: post #223

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Most people don’t expect their phones to be sucked out of airplanes.

> Most people don’t expect their phones to be sucked out of airplanes. Most people don't expect a stranger to post photos of their phone's screen on the Internet either.

There are an almost limitless myriad of "Most people don't expect..." which is why security features are important.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Post by astrange »

ponector wrote: post #193
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #179

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Even the screen with its tempered glass isn't as fragile as it might look.

If it wasn't fragile - people would not buy cases and protective glass for their phone. Old plastic phones were indestructible. I still have somewhere nokia 3310. It just refuses to die, unlike many smartphones I had.

Modern phones aren't fragile but they are slippery, and it's still annoying to drop them especially if it can go down a grate or something. So a case prevents that.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Post by shawabawa3 »

walteweiss wrote: post #263

I don’t get it. The original tweet says the phone has been found near the road. Where are all the guesses that the phone fell from an airplane? Could it be someone opening email in the car, and someone else (a kid) to take the phone and throw it out of the window. Then they decide ‘oh, duck we don’t have time to look for it’ and continue their journey without the phone. That’s my first thought after reading the origi…

The phone was open to an email of an Alaska Air flight confirmation for the specific flight that it fell out of. That's pretty solid evidence

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Post by astrange »

rattus_rattus wrote: post #66
irrational wrote: post #29

It is strange two phones have been found, but not the door. Most of the Cedar Hills/Beaverton area is houses and shops with sporadic green spaces that aren’t that large in comparison. It is possible the door fell into a green space, but the odds are it did not. I imagine it is in someone’s backyard, but it is January in rainy Oregon. People aren’t doing yard work right now. I wouldn’t be surprised if it isn’t found u…

Edit: it has been found! I’m on mobile and not able to find a better link right now, but here’s an NTSB spokesperson discussing it: https://www.facebook.com/story.php/?id=100064737668850&story ... Sounds like the thing in the woods mentioned below was not the real deal and just some other bit of garbage or something that was dumped in the brush. Previous comment: I live in this neighborhood and saw a post on Nextdoor…

It's a little strange NTSB would show up but not be able to get to the door(-like object). Seems like a drone could fly over it.

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Post by logifail »

insickness wrote: post #265
logifail wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most people don’t expect their phones to be sucked out of airplanes. Most people don't expect a stranger to post photos of their phone's screen on the Internet either.

There are an almost limitless myriad of "Most people don't expect..." which is why security features are important.

> why security features are important

Being thoughtful is also important. I can think of no reason for anyone to share an innocent stranger's details on the Internet.

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Post by astrange »

acchow wrote: post #181
gnicholas wrote: post #153

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I feel like the BT behavior varies when I activate airplane mode. If I am currently connected to my BT headphones, they stay connected. If I am not, then activating airplane mode appears to turn off BT (pulling out my headphones and trying to connect doesn't work). But I would be surprised if the Find My functionality didn't work in airplane mode, given how Apple set it up to work even when turned off (you must manua…

I imagine airplane mode turns off regular Bluetooth, but Bluetooth Low Energy meant for “Find My” is still allowed. The same behavior as turning off the phone.

I think airplane mode has memory and just switches to the last settings you had in airplane mode. My WiFi and BT stay turned on.
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