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Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by mycall »

GSGBen wrote: post #167
SteveNuts wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently had the pleasure of migrating a legacy server 2008 app to a brand new server 2022 box. One of the requirements is a local smtp server for sending mail so I looked up how to do this in windows. To my shock and horror, smtp service has been deprecated since server 2012, you can still install it but it comes with an extremely old version of IIS as a dependency and it’s broken out of the box. To get it working…

hmailserver is the replacement you want for this.

It is no longer under development.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

LeFantome wrote: post #272
CamperBob2 wrote: post #271

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Yes, I'd be fine with that. For better or worse, Windows is a key part of my daily business and life in general, and I don't expect it to be free. I regularly use Windows applications that cost more than $1500 by themselves. If I wanted a free OS, there are other OSes for that, for which I would still have to pay with my time. $1500 for a clean, advertising- and telemetry-free Windows LTSC license would be a bargain.…

If true, I think you can subscribe to LTSC today and get what you want.

Much easier said than done. (I can make a plausible case as an IoT manufacturer, so went that route.)

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Post by Eduard »

bongodongobob wrote: post #69
louthy wrote: post #55

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> Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. That’s still the case with Linux now. I did two recent Linux installs (different distros) and it’s still a nightmare of finding drivers, scripts, etc. to get everything setup. On one of my devices it still doesn’t recognise all the USB ports attached to the motherboard (but does recognise some), I just g…

Yup. I have two separate playbooks for my laptop and desktop for all the quirky shit that needs to happen to get a working install. Yes, you can get to a usable desktop pretty quickly. But getting everything right is still an hour or better process, post-install, in 2024.

> But getting everything right is still an hour or better process, post-install, in 2024.

If you mean Linux, "a week or better" is a more realistic, yet still optimistic estimate to get "everything right". Until the next odd regressions come in during a follow-up update.

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Post by Eduard »

doublepg23 wrote: post #169
louthy wrote: post #55

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> Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. That’s still the case with Linux now. I did two recent Linux installs (different distros) and it’s still a nightmare of finding drivers, scripts, etc. to get everything setup. On one of my devices it still doesn’t recognise all the USB ports attached to the motherboard (but does recognise some), I just g…

The only "just working" OSes are Android and iOS/iPadOS.

Better don't run logcat for like 10 minutes of normal Android usage, or you'll be disappointed what actually is going wrong behind the curtains.

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Post by smegger001 »

exabrial wrote: post #127

I don't understand why people like XP so much. Windows 2000 was the ultimate OS: lean, fast, focused, and absolutely zero crapware installed. No stupid internet accounts needed to run your local OS and it did what it was supposed to do.

Because most people who used windows prior to windows XP used one of the 9x line (95, 98, 98se, Me), which were shal we say sub par to say the least, windows 2000 was part of the NT line which the masses didn't really get to use until XP.

then after XP came Vista which suffered from security pop up fatigue. and bad drivers. 7 was stable but microsoft had learned their lesson had tried to cut its life cycle short (not releasing service packs pushing os updates etc...) rather than let it it go one for decades like XP costing them licenses revenue. Ever since we have instead we have starting with widows 8 been given an unending pile of shitty os's that get worse with each forced update.

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Post by Dwedit »

mrweasel wrote: post #188
dagmx wrote: post #181

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Windows 2000 wasn’t the version before Windows XP for most people though. It was Windows ME. Most people would not have experienced 2000. Windows 2000 was the last of the separate business targeted operating systems. Therefore I’d argue the nostalgia isn’t misplaced because most people under 45 just couldn’t have the nostalgia for 2000 to begin with. XP unified the two lines into one OS with multiple SKUs instead of…

> Windows 2000 wasn’t the version before Windows XP for most people though. That's probably a fair observation. Windows 2000 came out before Windows ME, so it you had just a slight interest in computers, you'd try it out and after that Windows 98 and even ME felt like a downgrade, so you'd stay on 2000. I remember getting an beta release of Windows 2000 in late December 1999 and that was basically it, every other ver…

Fun fact, you can indeed run the Windows ME installer from within Windows 2000, and it will perform an "Upgrade".

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Post by NikkiA »

transcriptase wrote: post #22

Microsoft actually makes the version of Windows that people want, but it’s called LTSC and they really don’t want you to have it. No bloat, no ads, no forced or feature updates, optional security patches only, virtually nothing installed by default, and minimal telemetry.

The enterprise edition of 22H2 is probably a better bet compatibility wise atm.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by ksec »

I think the keypoint here isn't the graphics design, or animations etc as many commented. It is its simplicity.

All Modern software tried to introduce more features, and more ways to access the same features or functions.

I am not sure if such thing exists or anyone have any pointers. Consider 90% of my time on computer are spend within the browser. I wonder what would it be like if the OS had nothing. Just a Desktop and Browser. No Settings, or even File Explorer. If there is a file it lives on Desktop. The only remaining 10% I think would be a video player. I wonder what would the experience be like. Would I be missing anything.

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