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Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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> There is no Cortana, no AI Co-Pilot, or an extreme amount of unwanted, pre-installed software. Ok XP came with tons of crap and bloatware from most manufacturers of the time, let's not rewrite history here! Of course, you could just do a fresh install or actually delete the programs you didn't want, looking at you Edge....

The key phrase is is "from manufacturers". Most power users and DIYers have always done fresh installs.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Ya know, I've never had a Linux box that had any of the problems listed about modern windows. Also all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux... But I've never paid Microsoft for an OS that showed me ads against my will in my Start Menu, so maybe I just don't know what I'm missing.

I'm coming off of an entire weekend spent trying to get acceptable latency for audio recording in Linux. Just a midi controller to play a simple 3x oscillator VST with better than 250ms latency was my test case. I tried different versions of Ubuntu, Debian, different kernels, different window managers, different graphics drivers, stripping things out of the system etc. After going down the rabbit hole, I finally ripp…

I hate to be the “halfassed suggestion after you’ve put a bunch of work into a problem” guy, but did you try pipewire?

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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> Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. That’s still the case with Linux now. I did two recent Linux installs (different distros) and it’s still a nightmare of finding drivers, scripts, etc. to get everything setup. On one of my devices it still doesn’t recognise all the USB ports attached to the motherboard (but does recognise some), I just g…

> when it comes to everything “just working”, it’s hard to beat. You've never had updates bork your Windows machine, its drivers etc a few hours before an important meeting, I see!

No, but I've had at least ten counts of apt gimping itself somehow during an update.

Who here isn't intimately familiar with

> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Ubuntu mostly, and I have plenty of experience with Linux distros since Slackware 2.0 in 1995, so no need for the typical answer that I am holding it wrong, once upon a time I jumped across distros on regular basis.

If you have hardware that has linux support then everything should work at install time or after install. Ubuntu also has a dedicated program to show you the available proprietary drivers you might want to use. Unless you your hardware is so new that it requires the very latest kernel then you should be golden.

> If you have hardware that has linux support then everything should work at install time or after install.

So, if you buy something that works, it will work, and if you buy something that doesn't work, it won't. Wow, what insight. It really does boggle the mind why people don't just buy things that work. Am I right!?!

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention that everything that depends on an MS account (like the Store) is broken, and these days even adding a second keyboard layout post-installation requires "downloading features from the store".

The Store doesn't require an account for free apps or updates.

There is no store whatsoever. Anything that requires the store simply freezes.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Ya know, I've never had a Linux box that had any of the problems listed about modern windows. Also all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux... But I've never paid Microsoft for an OS that showed me ads against my will in my Start Menu, so maybe I just don't know what I'm missing.

I'm coming off of an entire weekend spent trying to get acceptable latency for audio recording in Linux. Just a midi controller to play a simple 3x oscillator VST with better than 250ms latency was my test case. I tried different versions of Ubuntu, Debian, different kernels, different window managers, different graphics drivers, stripping things out of the system etc. After going down the rabbit hole, I finally ripp…

I'd recommend jack audio connection kit if that's your use case. You can generally get the best latency performance that your card has to offer, and the jack connection graph is superlative, in my opinion.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Ya know, I've never had a Linux box that had any of the problems listed about modern windows. Also all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux... But I've never paid Microsoft for an OS that showed me ads against my will in my Start Menu, so maybe I just don't know what I'm missing.

I'm coming off of an entire weekend spent trying to get acceptable latency for audio recording in Linux. Just a midi controller to play a simple 3x oscillator VST with better than 250ms latency was my test case. I tried different versions of Ubuntu, Debian, different kernels, different window managers, different graphics drivers, stripping things out of the system etc. After going down the rabbit hole, I finally ripp…

You had audio latency issues and instead of googling "Linux audio latency", you spent several hours installing distributions, kernels, graphics drivers (?), and UIs (??). You could have avoided this by doing what any windows user would have done in your situation.

>This article describes how to configure your system for recording, mixing and playing back audio as well as using it to synthesize and generate sounds. Those activities are subsumed under the term professional audio (pro audio) and typically require low latency performance.

First link.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Windows from an alternate universe where companies care mainly about the user's benefit.

I think Linux would barely be a thing at all if Microsoft had focused on clean and performant experiences that allowed users more control, flexibility, and privacy.

Instead, they put themselves through the pain and expense of pretending to care for OSS. They would have loyal customers due to the trust from a clean Windows experience.

Now Linux is nearer to an actual replacement for Windows.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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post #4

Ya know, I've never had a Linux box that had any of the problems listed about modern windows. Also all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux... But I've never paid Microsoft for an OS that showed me ads against my will in my Start Menu, so maybe I just don't know what I'm missing.

I'm coming off of an entire weekend spent trying to get acceptable latency for audio recording in Linux. Just a midi controller to play a simple 3x oscillator VST with better than 250ms latency was my test case. I tried different versions of Ubuntu, Debian, different kernels, different window managers, different graphics drivers, stripping things out of the system etc. After going down the rabbit hole, I finally ripp…

In my experience, Windows isn't any better.

With both OS you eventually have problems and if you are willing to solve them you can put a lot of time and effort into doing so. The only difference is the openness of the system. With Linux, you can easily go much deeper (for many reasons: community, available source code, multiple implementations for different system components, custom kernels). But don't get me wrong: More options aren't necessarily better, because it can take a lot longer until you run out of options.

> In Windows or MacOS I would have been up and running immediately.

Over the years, I have thought so too sometimes, but every time that I tried, I had to tinker with Windows too (not necessarily to solve the same issue, but then something else)...

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