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Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

Nextgrid wrote: post #61
transcriptase wrote: post #22

Microsoft actually makes the version of Windows that people want, but it’s called LTSC and they really don’t want you to have it. No bloat, no ads, no forced or feature updates, optional security patches only, virtually nothing installed by default, and minimal telemetry.

LTSC cuts down on the user-hostility but the quality of the OS is still terrible - it doesn't fix features that have intentionally been broken/removed/replaced by a half-assed knockoff. You still have the terrible/broken start menu search, useless mobile-themed control panel (which often doesn't have what you want so you end up falling back to the real control panel anyway), etc.

Not to mention that everything that depends on an MS account (like the Store) is broken, and these days even adding a second keyboard layout post-installation requires "downloading features from the store".

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by hyperific »

belltaco wrote: post #46
ajdude wrote: post #5

Whenever I set up a new computer for older family members, despite it being windows 11, I always install open shell[1] and retro bar[2]. Between the two, I've made the operating system look very close to Windows XP visually, and they always appreciate it. [1] https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu [2] https://github.com/dremin/RetroBar

I hate it when visual oriented products make it difficult or impossible to see a screenshot of how they look like. Both of those products' github pages don't have screenshot, the first does have a website but no screenshots or links to them there either. Do you have to install a tool that modifies the internals of your OS in order to see how it could look like? Imagine if you had to set up a painting on your wall bef…

Retro bar has a screenshot right at the top

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

louthy wrote: post #55
tiffanyh wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux" You mean, are present in Linux TODAY . Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. Windows XP marked the begin of an era when corporations replaced analog processes with digital. It sounds so foreign now, but in the late 90s - it was still common for corporations to send printe…

> Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. That’s still the case with Linux now. I did two recent Linux installs (different distros) and it’s still a nightmare of finding drivers, scripts, etc. to get everything setup. On one of my devices it still doesn’t recognise all the USB ports attached to the motherboard (but does recognise some), I just g…

> Linux is not accessible to the average non-technical user at all. The moment one thing goes wrong, they’re done.

How is this different from Windows, macOS or any other operating system these days exactly? It's not like things don't go wrong there...

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by diggan »

jessriedel wrote: post #33
transcriptase wrote: post #22

Microsoft actually makes the version of Windows that people want, but it’s called LTSC and they really don’t want you to have it. No bloat, no ads, no forced or feature updates, optional security patches only, virtually nothing installed by default, and minimal telemetry.

It's only $110. How do they discourage people from using it?

Last time I checked, you cannot purchase it as an individual, has to be as a business. And you cannot just purchase one license.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by jaktet »

ajdude wrote: post #5

Whenever I set up a new computer for older family members, despite it being windows 11, I always install open shell[1] and retro bar[2]. Between the two, I've made the operating system look very close to Windows XP visually, and they always appreciate it. [1] https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu [2] https://github.com/dremin/RetroBar

I haven’t gone looking yet but is there a tool to make sure you have all tracking, bing, IE, and anything else like that turned off, uninstalled, or disabled? I usually just go through it as I see things that annoy me but I’m probably missing some privacy and default overrides.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by [deleted] »

tiffanyh wrote: post #19
swells34 wrote: post #4

Ya know, I've never had a Linux box that had any of the problems listed about modern windows. Also all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux... But I've never paid Microsoft for an OS that showed me ads against my will in my Start Menu, so maybe I just don't know what I'm missing.

> "all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux" You mean, are present in Linux TODAY . Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. Windows XP marked the begin of an era when corporations replaced analog processes with digital. It sounds so foreign now, but in the late 90s - it was still common for corporations to send printe…

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Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by torstenvl »

ary wrote: post #56

The "Fisher-Price'ing" [1] of the user interface isn't necessarily better in my view. It took the already big and colorful user interface elements and essentially made them bigger. When the video finally gets past the installer there isn't much that wasn't already a part of XP beyond the added, slow UI animations (which is definitely not an improvement, just look at most UI research and anecdotal griping on the web f…

All of your UI suggestions are bad UI and shockingly similar to all the BS Windows 10-11 force-feed us.

Hierarchy (organization) is better than search. We all know this because whenever hierarchy is replaced with search, search had to reimplement hierarchy to be usable! E.g., grouping and nesting of pinned Win10+ start menu items.

Control Panel did have groups in Win XP. They suck. I always disable it.

Windows 10 removed a ton of context menus. Windows 11 removed more. They both suck. Stop hiding things from me.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by DANmode »

louthy wrote: post #55
tiffanyh wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux" You mean, are present in Linux TODAY . Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. Windows XP marked the begin of an era when corporations replaced analog processes with digital. It sounds so foreign now, but in the late 90s - it was still common for corporations to send printe…

> Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. That’s still the case with Linux now. I did two recent Linux installs (different distros) and it’s still a nightmare of finding drivers, scripts, etc. to get everything setup. On one of my devices it still doesn’t recognise all the USB ports attached to the motherboard (but does recognise some), I just g…

> when it comes to everything “just working”, it’s hard to beat.

You've never had updates bork your Windows machine, its drivers etc a few hours before an important meeting, I see!

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