This is very impressive, but if I'm going to go through the pain of not using gsuite/O365, I'm not going to consider something I can't self host or export to one of those quickly if your saas fails.
Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)
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Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)
#42The problem here is that people are not trained on YOUR implementation. Everything you have listed here is very nice to have (offline mode, interoperability, …) , but MS (with O365) or G (with G Suite) are often available for free to students, teachers, and professors at critical stages in life. Just look at Apple with their productivity suite (Pages, Numbers, Keynote). The market penetration is probably worse than L…
How is this different than what any new market entrant encounters? This is what sales and marketing is for; business as usual. I’ve never launched a product that the world was familiar with before I launched it.
Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)
#43Since I haven't seen it mentioned here, our small team adopted coda[0] in 2020 which has a similar thesis, as our organization's central information hub, and have not looked back. It has the simplicity of falling back to plaintext, but whenever we want to structure data better gives us tables, charts, publishable forms, sites, etc.
It's exciting to have more tools in this space, as I think it addresses a major use case across workplaces in today's world of remote-centric work: Asynchronous knowledge transfer and documentation, especially amongst non-technical workers and organizations. Extremely poor documentation of process and practices, largely because of poor documentation tools (just word docs and the like) is the biggest knowledge-hole I have observed within non-tech workplaces.
[0]: https://coda.io
Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)
#44I'm not really sure that I see an "app chaos problem". For each company/job workflow that I've encountered, there are a set of apps that solve for the specific use-case.
For example as the head of devrel at the last company that I worked for, we used Atlassian products for internal documentation and work tracking, we used Google's docs and sheets for collaborative writing with external teams, and we used github and markdown for external docs building. It's all text, but the work flows were different, had different needs (like permissions), and ultimately we found the right tools for the job.
I wish you luck with this endeavor, but I hope that your looking for a specific problem. To solve that isn't "app chaos".
Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)
#45Word, Excel, Google Sheets, Access, etc. All of these are substantial software titles with massive feature sets. How do you propose to offer even a fraction of the capability and at a high caliber of quality when your focus is spread so thin across so many of them?
I acknowledge I'm coming across as a naysayer, but I almost didn't click the link because my common sense insisted it must be a toy, and you might need to overcome a similar initial reaction from other prospective users.
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#46Security & privacy are tough selling points; fewer people care about either than you may think, and the existing platforms provide a lot more than most who do care are willing to admit. Also the “too many tools” pitch sounds like an unhinged rant. There’s almost certainly a better way to phrase that, because otherwise the idea that the mere existence of a wide variety of tools bothers you doesn’t stand up to the “so…
On your first point: I think the trend is more will start to care. I agree many platforms provide a lot of security features, but few allow you to encrypt with custom keys though.
On your second point: That's a good point, bad phrasing on my part. Thanks for the feedback.
Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)
#47This is very impressive, but if I'm going to go through the pain of not using gsuite/O365, I'm not going to consider something I can't self host or export to one of those quickly if your saas fails.
You can export everything in 1-click! It only supports JSON, HTML, CSV for now tho. PDF support will come at one point.
Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)
#48Word, Excel, Google Sheets, Access, etc. All of these are substantial software titles with massive feature sets. How do you propose to offer even a fraction of the capability and at a high caliber of quality when your focus is spread so thin across so many of them? I acknowledge I'm coming across as a naysayer, but I almost didn't click the link because my common sense insisted it must be a toy, and you might need to…
I'd say that most people don't use the massive feature sets, they use the basics. For them, this offering may suffice, given the other upsides it may have, like self-hosting.
With time, more features will be added, as revenue grows and the demands become more sophisticated. If you remember, at launch Google Sheets were relatively bare-bones, as were Google Docs.
Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)
#49This is very impressive, but if I'm going to go through the pain of not using gsuite/O365, I'm not going to consider something I can't self host or export to one of those quickly if your saas fails.
You can export everything in 1-click! It only supports JSON, HTML, CSV for now tho. PDF support will come at one point.
I don't mean any disrespect, but I made an incredibly basic doc - the JSON export is unlikely to be helpful, and the HTML export is essentially broken for a lot of features, such as an equation.
I think that getting perfect PDF exports should definitely be up there on the priorities. Might help you hone the document model too.
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#50Super impressive app by the look of things, but as you asked for feedback, it is (to me) very confusing on the product side of things (i.e. what is it and why does it matter to me). As a business user it's not clear how I would use it, and why I would care. Your front page reads as: > Nino is a collection of apps that can interoperate with each other on the block-level from one uniform interface. It has interoperable…
> interoperate with each other on the block-level from one uniform interface
Sounds quite a bit like Notion. A comparison would be apt.
Also sounds a bit like OLE / OpenDoc on desktop, embedding an Excel sheet into a Word doc along with an Access form. If it can do that, it could make quite a demo.