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Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by harrisonlo »

mstngl wrote: post #6

Congrats for such an profound launch of kind an Army knife for office needs. I like this approach of "modules" very much, especially compared to MS365 cosmos where you've got the great four apps very prominent and new apps / functions hiding their potential power behind a lot of new names and rather confusing menues. What is your vision about email? I know, it's not an advanced nor modern technology but still the est…

I've thought about email - it'll likely be a module that syncs with your outlook or gmail. This is one area that is very hard to replace, because the cost of switching email is huge. Once the emails are synced to nino, they become blocks and can interoperate with other modules i.e. crm type of use cases

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by samstave »

(I know this is out of scope, but I LOVE this - and just some other-think:

So - crazy LLM idea for you:

Rather than NEW - give me a prompt box:

"make me a sheet of all my movies and grab the IMDB ratings and sort my library amd then give me a publishable page to my blog"

Such comments make your app more powerful.

HOWEVER - Making a new sheet is really FN confusing,

https://i.imgur.com/Pd64RUk.png

Am I supposed to create each FN cell?

What the F am I doing: https://i.imgur.com/U6Gx1nU.png

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by urbandw311er »

samstave wrote: post #27
farley13 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 to this. Focusing on usecases would be great. ex: I wanted to see what features were available for your sheets module. Was willing to spend 5 minutes on a walk. Tried the web app - ios safari is not supported :( downloaded the ios app and registered. Got a totally blank app - no onboarding, no template / samples, no obvious way to import from my existing google sheets to see how things scaled. I added a datasource…

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Eh what? Mobile safari on iOS is surely something like 20-30% of the market.

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by blehn »

xyst wrote: post #30

The problem here is that people are not trained on YOUR implementation. Everything you have listed here is very nice to have (offline mode, interoperability, …) , but MS (with O365) or G (with G Suite) are often available for free to students, teachers, and professors at critical stages in life. Just look at Apple with their productivity suite (Pages, Numbers, Keynote). The market penetration is probably worse than L…

You could've said the same about Notion and its current valuation is at least 10B. Don't let this kind of feedback deter you, OP.

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by supermatt »

samstave wrote: post #27
farley13 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 to this. Focusing on usecases would be great. ex: I wanted to see what features were available for your sheets module. Was willing to spend 5 minutes on a walk. Tried the web app - ios safari is not supported :( downloaded the ios app and registered. Got a totally blank app - no onboarding, no template / samples, no obvious way to import from my existing google sheets to see how things scaled. I added a datasource…

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more than 50% of mobile users are using ios safari. https://www.statista.com/statistics/272664/market-share-held...

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by andai »

xyst wrote: post #30

The problem here is that people are not trained on YOUR implementation. Everything you have listed here is very nice to have (offline mode, interoperability, …) , but MS (with O365) or G (with G Suite) are often available for free to students, teachers, and professors at critical stages in life. Just look at Apple with their productivity suite (Pages, Numbers, Keynote). The market penetration is probably worse than L…

I heard that if you want to convince people to switch from what they're used to, you can't just be 10% better, you need to be 10x better.

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

#39

Post by chime »

Great job on the launch. Your pricing is reasonable for small biz, but I'm unclear on what "Email" in https://nino.app/pricing means. Does that mean you offer email hosting like Outlook/Gmail or email support?

For anyone not in the 365 corporate world looking for office apps, you're unfortunately competing with https://workspace.google.com/pricing, regardless of the unique feature set you offer.

For anyone looking for a no-code solution, your pricing is very low for one person startup when compared to https://www.softr.io/pricing but would get pricey for a team of 5-10.

I am someone you should target because I help startups get started, with low/no code solutions. I also use many paid solutions personally like Cozi.com, Zoom, and ProtonMail for managing my life. I can see your tech is great and what you need is to figure out your place in the market. Where are you positioned in comparison to Zoho, HubSpot, and Zapier? How can I integrate you with Shopify? Also, you need a LOT of templates for https://about.nino.app/en/site

I applaud you for building what you've already built in such a competitive and demanding market. You need a hook - the one thing I cannot get easily from any of your competitors, which would make it easy for me to suggest you to a founder. I don't think offline mode or security cut it.

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by macspoofing »

harrisonlo wrote: post #26
macspoofing wrote: post #15

>Nino is a radical approach to solve the app chaos problem for today's knowledge worker ... I'm building all these apps from scratch in one place, using the same database and UI, with the flexibility to support the majority of work from one "superapp eventually." Maybe I can see some use-case for personal use (big maybe), but right off the bat, you can't use this at any company (small startup or enterprise), for seve…

A lot of features you mentioned are actually implemented (role-based permission, cross workspace sharing, domain hosting...) and some that will come (audit logs and other enterprise things). I get the best-of-breed argument. Nino's thesis is that people will find more value if enough tools are bundled in one place.

>A lot of features you mentioned are implemented

No, they aren't. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but there is a difference between true support and a superficial check-mark.

>I get the best-of-breed argument. Nino's thesis is that people will find more value if enough tools are bundled in one place

I'd like to interrogate this a little more. Why would someone not go with MS365 or Workspace?

I can see your answer of: >Nino has a better foundation to (1) consolidate a lot more apps than they currently do, (2) drastically improve speed with offline architecture, and (3) offer unmatched privacy and security with end-to-end encryption (coming soon)

Taking this point by point: 1) Your ambition is to have more apps, but the reality is that TODAY, both MS365 and Workspace actually have MORE applications integrated, and those applications are much more feature-rich. 2) MS365 certainly has deep offline integration. Workspace, I'm not sure what their capabilities are. 3) Neither MS365 nor Workspace supports true e2e (though I seem to remember Workspace having some option to import your own keys for client-side encryption) - regardless, I'm not sure that's enough as a selling point. Also, e2e has many challenges around the UX of key management, rotation and sharing.

By the way, MS365 and Workspace are not the only games in town. If you want to see another example of a 'super-app' that supports a million 'modules' take a look at ZohoOne - they support everything under the sun for a relatively low price, and all of it is mediocre (at best).

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Another thing I can't gauge from your page is, what it means for one of your modules to be very well integrated against another. You have a chat app and a slide app .. how do those work together that puts MS365 to shame?

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