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BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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I'm wondering how many of these $150k+ effectively ever hit even a dirt road. Notwithstanding how heavy it is.

The same proportion of G-class Benzes, Range Rovers and Lexus LXes that go off-road.

Well these are included, I was referring to the general $150k+ off-road looking tank category.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a stat that people keep bringing up while completely ignoring the fact that many of BYD's vehicles are not marketable outside of China because they're just rip-offs of other manufacturers' vehicles. See BYD S8 [0] and Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class [1] for one example, but there are numerous. This should tell you everything you need to know about this company. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_S8 [1] https://en.…

You are choosing an example from more than a decade ago, at a time when not even Chinese people chose BYD vehicles. To wit the S8 sold 103 units. Things have changed. You are ignoring the fact that plenty of BYD's vehicles are already marketed and sold in Europe, other Asian countries, and Australia.

I just rode a BYD taxi (Uber) in Mexico city, I believe it was the BYD D1. Super comfortable, tons of leg space, minivan-style door. The driver claimed that after 100K kms the range was still within 1% of baseline.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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post #77

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> I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Musk is perfectly willing to play by the rules and norms of the Chinese market. They opened up a factory there and everything, they are even selling lots of cars in the PRC while exporting some outside. I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden; where unions are granted b…

> I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union shenanigans happened. No idea about Norway

It's not even close to Tesla here in Norway. Mostly because the price is not as competitive as they are in China and the system difference is another issue. Plus, the psychology.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Fun fact: The original VW beetle could do this for half an hour or so [1]. There was a (1960s?) article in "Modern Motor", whereby someone tested it and found that there was at least some control, as the tyres provided enough paddle action to move forward and the front wheels acted as rudders.

Their floating inspired some to modify beetles to really make them amphibious [2,3].

Even if it officially floats, I wouldn't like to go up against a flooded river in a 4WD [4]. In this example, the wheels snagged and flipped the car.

[1] https://www.arnoldclark.com/newsroom/527-why-do-volkswagen-b...

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQiS4paC_sk

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rRwzPz6rzs

[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZNkgixXl7U

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

#145

4 tons as an hybrid with only 50kWh of battery. You would need a truck driving license in Europe, and a speed limit of 80km/h.

Yeah, as an EU, this truc is ridiculously heavy and big. Well most cars produced nowadays are too.. :(

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

#146
post #61

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BYD are selling the most cars, and is the fastest growing in terms of sales in the country. If you're aiming to be the company that produces the most vehicles in the world, it certainly sounds like it's not going in the right direction for them. - "BYD overtakes Tesla - sells the most electric cars" - https://www.mestmotor.se/automotorsport/artiklar/nyheter/202... - "BYD beat Tesla - grew fastest in Sweden in 2023" -…

> BYD are selling the most cars, and is the fastest growing in terms of sales in the country Source? BYD aren't selling the most cars in Sweden. > BYD beat Tesla - grew fastest in Sweden in 2023 Tesla sold 20K cars and BYD sold 3K in Sweden in 2023. How is that beating Tesla? They went from 1.1K cars to 3K, so had better percentage growth than Tesla

From one of the links in the comment you're replying to:

> Det är i det sista kvartalet 2023 som BYD kan stoltsera med bättre siffror än Tesla. BYD rapporterar att de sålt 526 409 elbilar från och med oktober och fram till årets slut.

> Teslas försäljning å sin sida slog rekord och blev den högsta för ett givet kvartal i tillverkarens historia. Resultatet blev 484 507 bilar. 41 902 färre än BYD.

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> It is in the last quarter of 2023 that BYD can boast better figures than Tesla. BYD reports that it sold 526,409 electric cars from October through the end of the year.

> Tesla's sales, on the other hand, broke records and became the highest for a given quarter in the manufacturer's history. The result was 484,507 cars. 41,902 fewer than BYD.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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post #146

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> BYD are selling the most cars, and is the fastest growing in terms of sales in the country Source? BYD aren't selling the most cars in Sweden. > BYD beat Tesla - grew fastest in Sweden in 2023 Tesla sold 20K cars and BYD sold 3K in Sweden in 2023. How is that beating Tesla? They went from 1.1K cars to 3K, so had better percentage growth than Tesla

From one of the links in the comment you're replying to: > Det är i det sista kvartalet 2023 som BYD kan stoltsera med bättre siffror än Tesla. BYD rapporterar att de sålt 526 409 elbilar från och med oktober och fram till årets slut. > Teslas försäljning å sin sida slog rekord och blev den högsta för ett givet kvartal i tillverkarens historia. Resultatet blev 484 507 bilar. 41 902 färre än BYD. --- > It is in the la…

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Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

#148
post #81
post #59

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You are choosing an example from more than a decade ago, at a time when not even Chinese people chose BYD vehicles. To wit the S8 sold 103 units. Things have changed. You are ignoring the fact that plenty of BYD's vehicles are already marketed and sold in Europe, other Asian countries, and Australia.

Extremely anecdotally, I saw their vehicles on display at a mall in Costa Rica.

They have a dealership where I live in a southern Japanese city now. Seems like a very bold move, Japan must be a very difficult market for a Chinese brand...

I'm visiting Australia now and you see lots of Great Wall trucks

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

#149
post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

This is a stat that people keep bringing up while completely ignoring the fact that many of BYD's vehicles are not marketable outside of China because they're just rip-offs of other manufacturers' vehicles. See BYD S8 [0] and Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class [1] for one example, but there are numerous. This should tell you everything you need to know about this company. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_S8 [1] https://en.…

I think if they make a good product it should always be possible to hire a designer to make their cars look good without industrial design infringements.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Does BYD use a dealership model in sweden like they do in China? If so, they would just outsource all of those issues to local parties.

They have their own showrooms in the cities.

So they are following Tesla’s direct model?
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