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BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by ripjaygn »

dmoy wrote: post #77
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Musk is perfectly willing to play by the rules and norms of the Chinese market. They opened up a factory there and everything, they are even selling lots of cars in the PRC while exporting some outside. I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden; where unions are granted b…

> I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union shenanigans happened. No idea about Norway

> Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union shenanigans happened.

Source, please. VW and Tesla seem far far ahead of BYD. I am curious where this narrative started, since multiple people are confidently stating that BYD is outselling Tesla in Sweden.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

#102

Post by sidlls »

endisneigh wrote: post #100
sidlls wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it demonstrates a theft of tech and design, which puts their credibility and integrity in question. Is the derivative safe (actually safe, not government-of-China wanting a feather in its cap rubber-stamp safe)? Is the derivative actually comparable (i.e. is the marketing a lie)? Aside from that, do we want to reward companies that steal other companies' ideas?

Please do tell me a company that has released something that is independently invented in its entirety with respect to “tech and design” Such a ridiculous take on a technology forum. It’s a waste of human energy to reinvent the wheel. Not to mention the example given earlier is irrelevant since it’s no longer in production anyway.

Please stop moving the goalposts. Iterating on the past is different from thieving entire designs, and you know it.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

#103

Post by resolutebat »

gzer0 wrote: post #65
diggan wrote: post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

And many people forget that BYD's number's are bolstered by the fact that they sell one of their models for less than 10,000 euros. Of course they will have higher numbers at that price point.

And this is a problem because...?

Tesla's building their cheap car too, but it will not launch until 2025 earliest.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

#104

Post by eptcyka »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #85
dmoy wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union shenanigans happened. No idea about Norway

Does BYD use a dealership model in sweden like they do in China? If so, they would just outsource all of those issues to local parties.

They have their own showrooms in the cities.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

#105

Post by lambdasquirrel »

raisedbyninjas wrote: post #64
yial wrote: post #27

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It sounds like it uses the wheels and tires to provide slight control and speed.

So if there is any wind at all, your luxury SUV is just going to get blown around wherever the wind blows. I've personally never been to a lake with no wind. Maybe it's useful foolishly ford a washed washed out road and get swept down-river.

I wouldn’t say it’s that bad. 3km/hr is roughly the speed of a rec kayak, and people paddle those. But of course, it might create a false sense of security because weather that’d cause flooding…

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

#106

Post by endisneigh »

sidlls wrote: post #102
endisneigh wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please do tell me a company that has released something that is independently invented in its entirety with respect to “tech and design” Such a ridiculous take on a technology forum. It’s a waste of human energy to reinvent the wheel. Not to mention the example given earlier is irrelevant since it’s no longer in production anyway.

Please stop moving the goalposts. Iterating on the past is different from thieving entire designs, and you know it.

There is more to design than its surface appearance, and the car described earlier uses an entirely different drivetrain than the Mercedes…

I swear the stupidest takes on this forum called “hacker news”. Hackers who usually reuse the same exploit “tech and design”, lol…

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

#107

Post by resolutebat »

avar wrote: post #37

A car that floats ... but only with a mandatory fully open sunroof ... in a part of the world that gets typhoons. Is the 30 minute time limitation an estimate on how long it'll take to fill it up in the rain with an open sunroof?

The floating is meant to be an emergency only feature that requires a dealer inspection afterwards every time it's activated.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

#108

Post by resolutebat »

osti wrote: post #6

It can also do 360 degree self centered turn, which should be useful. No more 3 point turns! Given the flexibility of installing the motors, I've always wondered why electric cars still can't move in a parallel way. That should be very handy when parallel parking.

It can only do the 360 deg turn while floating, which rather limits its utility.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by bryanlarsen »

dmoy wrote: post #77
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Musk is perfectly willing to play by the rules and norms of the Chinese market. They opened up a factory there and everything, they are even selling lots of cars in the PRC while exporting some outside. I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden; where unions are granted b…

> I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union shenanigans happened. No idea about Norway

Those news headlines are very misleading. Most Tesla's, all BYD's and certain Volvo models are imported from China on large ships so will sell thousands in one month and essentially zero in others. So while the BYD Atto 3 was the best-selling car in a couple of the months of 2023, for annual sales it is well behind the Tesla Y and Volvo XC40.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-...

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