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BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

> I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall.

Musk is perfectly willing to play by the rules and norms of the Chinese market. They opened up a factory there and everything, they are even selling lots of cars in the PRC while exporting some outside.

I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden; where unions are granted blanket monopolies on economic control. Is it even much of a player there yet?

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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> that many of BYD's vehicles are not marketable outside of China Yet, it seems like they're beating a lot of other EV makers across the world, and are producing top-selling vehicles in a bunch of countries. So seems it's somewhat working outside of China? Or I misunderstand what you mean.

The price outside china is very different. In Colombia for example their 10k car is 150,000,000 cop or about 35k.

This might have to do with Columbian import tariffs, it might also not be exactly the same car.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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> handy when parallel parking. If you love switching tires.

This is a feature that should only be used for off-roading. Off roads, it is extremely useful to be able to make small-radius turns.

A 4 ton thing doing this on the trails I go on would destroy them.

I hope people don't actually do it.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

> I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Musk is perfectly willing to play by the rules and norms of the Chinese market. They opened up a factory there and everything, they are even selling lots of cars in the PRC while exporting some outside. I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden; where unions are granted b…

> I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden

Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union shenanigans happened.

No idea about Norway

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

Electric vehicles are more heavily subsidized in China than America. 22% of new car sales in China are electric vs 1% in America. China also has a lot of tariffs and regulations preventing foreign competition.

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> Added a link that gives you some additional context. Tesla sold 55% more cars in Nov 2023 compared to Nov 2022, and 9% more in December, so how is that Tesla's downfall? https://carup.se/trots-strejken-tesla-far-ut-fler-bilar-i-sv... https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-... Edit: Ran into the posting limit but the below is certainly false about Sweden, BYD is not selling the most cars there.…

BYD are selling the most cars, and is the fastest growing in terms of sales in the country. If you're aiming to be the company that produces the most vehicles in the world, it certainly sounds like it's not going in the right direction for them. - "BYD overtakes Tesla - sells the most electric cars" - https://www.mestmotor.se/automotorsport/artiklar/nyheter/202... - "BYD beat Tesla - grew fastest in Sweden in 2023" -…

Isn’t this more like a Huawei vs Apple thing? BYD sells more cars, Tesla makes more money (revenue and profit). It will be more interesting to see what happens as BYD moves more into model 3 territory.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

This is a stat that people keep bringing up while completely ignoring the fact that many of BYD's vehicles are not marketable outside of China because they're just rip-offs of other manufacturers' vehicles. See BYD S8 [0] and Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class [1] for one example, but there are numerous. This should tell you everything you need to know about this company. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_S8 [1] https://en.…

> In 2009 the car sold in 96 units, and only seven cars were sold in the full 2010 fiscal year. Production has now ceased. In all, the car sold in only 103 units

This is like saying we should ignore Tesla because the only car they sold in 2009 was a rip-off Lotus.

Speaking as an American, I'd love to see what the presence of low-end (say, $10k range) autos would do to traffic laws and city planning.

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