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BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by diggan »

orenlindsey wrote: post #36
diggan wrote: post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

You'll have to wait for more than 1 quarter before you make that call.

Not according to the graph from the article: https://archive.is/LOiYh/d4f25c5617954c2cd5c5e2de424334eacab...

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by diggan »

samr71 wrote: post #30
diggan wrote: post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

If he was willing to work with the rules and norms of the markets they want to enter, they'd sell even fewer cars. If they had to deal with the same regulations and IP laws as China, they'd sell more.

> If he was willing to work with the rules and norms of the markets they want to enter, they'd sell even fewer cars

Well, as it stands right now, BYD looks to be the more popular option in countries like Sweden just because Musk refuses to do what every other single company does in the country. Even Amazon found a way to work in a way that the common person is protected, why can't Tesla?

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by diggan »

belltaco wrote: post #33
diggan wrote: post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

> I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a bit. Like what? Source(s)?

> Like what? Source(s)?

Added a link that gives you some additional context.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

belltaco wrote: post #33
diggan wrote: post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

> I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a bit. Like what? Source(s)?

Well, the last example is unions in Sweden. I‘m sure you can google that yourself?

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by diggan »

paradite wrote: post #34
diggan wrote: post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

Huh? Literally I've seen people on HN making the exact opposite arguments about companies bending over rules for certain markets only to lose the market eventually, hence considered a bad example.

We're all different people on here (mostly at least), so makes sense you see conflicting opinions :)

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by acover »

diggan wrote: post #21
Etheryte wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a stat that people keep bringing up while completely ignoring the fact that many of BYD's vehicles are not marketable outside of China because they're just rip-offs of other manufacturers' vehicles. See BYD S8 [0] and Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class [1] for one example, but there are numerous. This should tell you everything you need to know about this company. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_S8 [1] https://en.…

> that many of BYD's vehicles are not marketable outside of China Yet, it seems like they're beating a lot of other EV makers across the world, and are producing top-selling vehicles in a bunch of countries. So seems it's somewhat working outside of China? Or I misunderstand what you mean.

The price outside china is very different. In Colombia for example their 10k car is 150,000,000 cop or about 35k.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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acover wrote: post #46
diggan wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that many of BYD's vehicles are not marketable outside of China Yet, it seems like they're beating a lot of other EV makers across the world, and are producing top-selling vehicles in a bunch of countries. So seems it's somewhat working outside of China? Or I misunderstand what you mean.

The price outside china is very different. In Colombia for example their 10k car is 150,000,000 cop or about 35k.

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Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by raisedbyninjas »

osti wrote: post #6

It can also do 360 degree self centered turn, which should be useful. No more 3 point turns! Given the flexibility of installing the motors, I've always wondered why electric cars still can't move in a parallel way. That should be very handy when parallel parking.

Hyundai is experimenting with this.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by stavros »

Etheryte wrote: post #17
diggan wrote: post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

This is a stat that people keep bringing up while completely ignoring the fact that many of BYD's vehicles are not marketable outside of China because they're just rip-offs of other manufacturers' vehicles. See BYD S8 [0] and Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class [1] for one example, but there are numerous. This should tell you everything you need to know about this company. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_S8 [1] https://en.…

> See BYD S8 [0] and Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class [1] for one example

I was thinking "come on, how similar can they be, the CLK has a really distinctive design", but nope, identical. Wow.

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