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Hearing stories like this over the years is why I always wear the seatbelt during the entirety of any flight... Just one of those small things that could make all the difference in a sudden emergency situation.
Yeah, sure Boeing, let's just give your planes a pass to get them in the air...this is literally the last headline they needed.
"If it's Boeing, I'm not going." I was on a flight that made and emergency landing once, it was TERRIFYING. The pilot circled once then we went down at a very steep angle. What was even worse was the three days we were stranded in Gander Newfoundland while they fixed the plane and then flew in a new crew. It was basically an refueling/military base and not a real airport, no food or facilities. After that I never fle…
If you ever watch the takeoff profile of a FedEx or UPS plane compared to the airlines, they turn much harder because they’ve no passengers to complain.
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I feel like you should retract: > Also, there isn't a "if you forget this everyone suffocates" button. (Also note that the pilots did not move the pressurization system out of AUTO; you are blaming them for not discovering that a ground engineer had done so, mostly while they fought hypoxia.)
I retract nothing. The cause of that crash was pilot error. They ignored written procedure, and did not react to multiple serious warnings, including the master caution. Which is something you do not ignore. Also note this was still only an issue because the pilots ALSO refused to verify the position of the aft outflow valve. It was the combination of all these things. So no, there absolutely is not a "press this but…
The MAX itself is an example of this. Both famous crashes definitely were pilot error AND were a bad design allowing that pilot error to occur.
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The pilots have nothing to worry about. They're locked onto the cockpit. You'll forgive me if I find your assertion strains credulity.
The cockpit is—as I’m sure you’ll be shocked to learn—actually integrally connected to the rest of the plane. If the MAX is as likely to fall out of the sky as the armchair experts at HN believe, pilots wouldn’t fly them.
Do you think there will be any accountability from Boeing executives? Boeing hasn't had a lot of good press in the last few years, will leadership ever be held accountable? There was a time when Boeing was considered a very trustworthy and reliable company, is this the result of a decline in an engineering-focused culture? Edit: Many of the comments in this thread mention that they avoid the 737 MAX whenever possible…
Err, maybe that was there perception but isn't the 737 line responsible for the vast majority of all airline fatalities? It's basically the grim reaper of the skies!
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The receivers for LiveATC and the like are frequently somewhat compromised in terms of quality and location. This can cause poor quality reception depending on the location and distance away of the transmitter. The radios and antennas on both the aircraft and for ATC are not only of much higher quality but are also positioned as perfectly as possible so as to maximize Tx/Rx performance. All that to say, the pilots an…
Is there any particular liveatc channel/location that offers a representative view of actual quality?
From my experience as a small plane pilot, radio comms is almost always quite clear. The antennas and radios are aimed “at the planes” not at receivers on the ground, after all.
Wonder if those full-of-themselves people will blame fentanyl and weed here, hehehehe. Feels kind of karmic.
The other article today about Boeing trying to exempt themselves from safety regulations for the 737 MAX is pretty timely. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38882358