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Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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Do you think there will be any accountability from Boeing executives? Boeing hasn't had a lot of good press in the last few years, will leadership ever be held accountable? There was a time when Boeing was considered a very trustworthy and reliable company, is this the result of a decline in an engineering-focused culture? Edit: Many of the comments in this thread mention that they avoid the 737 MAX whenever possible…

Err, maybe that was there perception but isn't the 737 line responsible for the vast majority of all airline fatalities? It's basically the grim reaper of the skies!

Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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Bad wording on my part since I implied but didn't state the alternative. In my mind, the alternative scenario that would create a depressurization event would be a small hole or a hole that is not visible from the passenger compartment. I.e., a hole from which a passenger or attendant could not exit the plane.

I'm no expert, but I've always assumed these pressurized cabins aren't exactly hermetically sealed, so a small invisible hole wouldn't noticeably depressurize the plane. My assumption has been there's always fresh air actively added continuously at a rate that can compensate for such small leaks, and that it's just an automatically regulated thing. Maybe a gauge/alarm visible to the pilots would indicate an out of sp…

It wouldn’t take much of a hole to depressurize the plane. And unplanned holes in a pressure vessel have a tendency to rapidly get larger.

Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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It is Boeing’s aircraft. Absent a sophisticated act of intentional sabotage, Boeing is at least partially responsible. The physical design, manufacturing, assembly, qualification, maintenance plans, and maintenance training are all responsibilities of the prime contractor. If a damn door falls off in flight more than one of those definitely contributed. It isn’t only Boeing. The FAA is also reasonable for verifying a…

If one door falls of the aircraft, it's most likely a service tech didn't do the job properly, not that there is a systematic issue. That'd require much more fallen doors.

What you mean to say throwaway51104 is that it is completely Boeing's fault and you work on minimal wage in a hired PR firm trying to defend them on social media.

There have been warnings for years that Boeing has lost the plot and abandoned their safety culture.

Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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Credit where credit is due. This plane obvisouly suffered a massive rapid decompression. But it didn't crash. All the other engineering and safety systems functioned to absorb and mitigate this damage, getting everyone back on the ground safely. That is saying something.

Airliners have survived much much worse:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243

Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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A maintenance issue on a ten week old plane?

That plane was literally at their OKC facility for maintenance on Dec 31, so… yes? Planes are not cars. They don’t go in once a year to change the oil filter and tighten a few bolts.

How often are those plugs maintained? As far as I know it is around zero times in the lifetime of the plane and maybe a quick look at 5k hours?

Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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not much choice. Boeing is practically the only US manufacturer of widebody passenger jets and enjoys a privileged position as such. there is literally no other American competition for passenger air. Alternatives include the Chinese Comac 929, Sukhoi SSJ100, or A320 from Airbus. the first two are non-starters as most north american politicians are furiously opposed to the idea of carriers so much as looking at chine…

Why do people with no insight write walls of text on things they don't understand?

Please present evidence or any other narrative?

Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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Frothing at the mouth is exactly what is called for here. A plane that loses a big chunk is indeed “fucked”, the only reason someone didn’t die is that that particular seat wasn’t occupied. There should have been many many redundant safety systems and procedures here with either didn’t exist or failed. People should be out for blood because there are obviously serious problems at both Boeing and the FAA. This was not…

How do you know it's related to Boeing's actions in any way? Why do you think there weren't any safety procedures, and again, how do you know it's Boeing's fault they weren't followed? Do you think it's only Boeing itself doing aircraft service? It's not.

What service would that be? They dont even look at those plugs until thousands of flight hours in. This was ten weeks old.
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