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Do you lack the space for a home gym or are you an advanced lifter that would benefit from the specialized machines?

Generally the more advanced you are as a lifter the less specialised machines are going to benefit you. Machines are there for people who don’t know what lifts to do and how to do them with proper technique. If you glimpse inside the gym of a professional athlete you’ll generally find a comprehensive set of dumbbells, some Olympic bars + plates and a bench and not much else!

Sorry but this is not completely correct. Many expert bodybuilders use a variety of machines to train each muscle group.

Power lifters, however, tend to focus on the compound movements and therefore probably need less equipment.

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I've been a gym rat for almost 20 years now, and I'm probably the worst customer for gyms. I only workout at 24*7 gyms and being an early bird I get there at 430 and I have pretty much the whole gym for myself. I am there 6 days a week and I always shower at the gym. Further, I use the corporate discounts available to join the memberships. With all that, it comes down to approx. $50 a month for membership and I used…

>>Finally I must add, all the friends (more like acquaintances) you make at the gym are absolutely crucial to motivate oneself Yes, but it's personality specific; the absolute worst part of the gym, to me, is "other people". The sweaty, macho, over-enthusiastic bros with specific kind of humour (you can tell me that's not all or even most of them; doesn't matter, my subconsciousness doesn't believe you! :). The stink…

You will find that if you go at the times I go, most of these things are not a problem. It's usually only the serious, respectful people who show up at that time. Once I went to the gym around 5pm and OMG, it was the first time ever I felt like why am I here. Never happened again !

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I've been a gym rat for almost 20 years now, and I'm probably the worst customer for gyms. I only workout at 24*7 gyms and being an early bird I get there at 430 and I have pretty much the whole gym for myself. I am there 6 days a week and I always shower at the gym. Further, I use the corporate discounts available to join the memberships. With all that, it comes down to approx. $50 a month for membership and I used…

Do you lack the space for a home gym or are you an advanced lifter that would benefit from the specialized machines?

I can probably make some space for a home gym, but like I said earlier part of the motivation going to the gym is to see other people working out and being serious at it. I am no longer an advanced "lifter" because of certain injuries and disorders that were diagnosed but I do LOVE the stairmaster at the gym and it is best for my health problems, and that kind of equipment is not something you can easily keep at home (you need a tall ceiling too), so I do need specialized machines in that regards. As far as weight training is concerned I can probably survive on a home gym.

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I personally don't understand the people who wouldn't want to take a 30 minute shower. So long as the water stays hot and you have the time, it's one of the more relaxing things you can do at home. Baths use way more water, and if you don't live somewhere like Japan, they aren't deep and cool off quickly without a bath warmer. Its also kind of gross to sit in a bath without already showering and getting clean before…

A 30 minute shower uses more water than a bath. If you don't believe me, try plugging the drain on just a 5 minute shower to see how much it fills up, then extrapolate... (The shower crosses into more water generally somewhere between 10 and 20 minutes depending on the shower flow and desired bath depth...)

Every shower head is a minor restriction on flow compared to the bath faucet. It may or not be negligible. But a bath drawn for the same faucet runtime will use more water than the same runtime for a shower every time. The crossover in cost happens when the shower uses more water than the bath. That should happen very shortly after the time it takes to fill a bath. At one house, our bath took 40 minutes to fill, another 15-20, and another took under 10.

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Body hair really extends shower time. A lot of body hair does it even more. Add long hair and beards and it's even more.

How so?

More hair means more product, more lathering, and significantly more rinsing. When my hair is short, I can wash it in a few seconds. With my hair below my shoulders, it can take more time to clean than an entire shower took with short hair.

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I lived out of my Toyota 4runner for 5 months. I would go to the Planet Fitness in the morning, take a long shower using their soap and hot water, do some exercise, and leave. Membership was $5 a month (for a 3-year contract. Now I live in Romania and gym memberships are $50-70 a month but people actually go there

Why would you shower before exercising and not after?

Oh my, this thread is wild... someone else takes 30 minutes or longer showers at the gym and thinks that's totally normal :D

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I've been a gym rat for almost 20 years now, and I'm probably the worst customer for gyms. I only workout at 24*7 gyms and being an early bird I get there at 430 and I have pretty much the whole gym for myself. I am there 6 days a week and I always shower at the gym. Further, I use the corporate discounts available to join the memberships. With all that, it comes down to approx. $50 a month for membership and I used…

I'd be dubious of sweeping claims about what is "crucial" to motivate people in general. I would also consider myself a gymrat in the sense you probably mean. I've been fairly consistent about lifting six days a week for roughly three years now. Time missed isn't down to motivation so much as travel, injury, and illness. I'm more than willing to accept that as a form of loosely principled periodization anyway. Cardio has been somewhat less consistent, but that has been far more down to what I imagined I was capable of than motivation. Now that I know I can do it, I've gotten pretty good about running from 20-40 miles a week or so with variance coming down to injury and illness.

This is all at home. My motivation is I'm an animal in a body that needs to be used and regularly stressed in ways it can adapt to in order to remain closer to peak functionality than degraded, and I don't want to degrade. I had very bad degenerative spine issues in my 30s and my experience living in a less degraded body has been far better than living in a degraded body. I don't feel any need for other people to push me. I work out completely alone in my own garage or on the street. I comment about it here when it comes up as a topic but don't try to be a part of any other web communities devoted to fitness. I don't publicly post progress photos or stats. I keep logs but only as feedback for my own planning.

This isn't down to trying to avoid other people, either. This is largely down to convenience. When I had gym memberships in the past, sometimes I would go and sometimes I would not and quite often the thing keeping me from going was the simple friction of needing to leave the house and get in a car for 20 minutes. As it stands, I didn't have a car for a few years and still very rarely drive thanks to the continuing spinal stiffness in the wake of multiple lumbar fusions. There is quite a bit less friction involved in walking downstairs whenever I happen to have a spare 40 minutes in the day.

I say all of this understanding not everybody works in the same way. Some may need a hard schedule. Some may need a coach or social factor. Some may do better with strict separation of home as a place to relax and somewhere else as a place to push bodily function. Some may need their garage for cars. Many are not going to have thousands of dollars to blow on equipment but can easily afford a monthly subscription to use equipment shared with others.

I'm only intending to point out there are many ways to make this work and to push language on the web away from saying things are "absolutely crucial to motivate oneself" because they worked for you personally. It was absolutely crucial to you. Something entirely different was absolutely crucial to me. What is absolutely crucial to some randomly selected other person who is neither of us I will not claim to know. If this is something you care about, try everything. Find what works for you.

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About 5 times per week for 6 months. The exact workout is from 19m28s - 37:22 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0WOTplwNlw&t=19m28s (I do the whole thing twice, then 3km run then stretch) Imbalance is something that worries me. I figure it's better to do a workout that's imbalanced than to come up with a theoretically perfect workout that requires a gym that I hate going to or, worse, doing no structure…

Pulling movements in general are pretty hard to do with just calisthenics. Anywhere in that big park, is there a nice sturdy pole or post? If so, you can get an elastic band set, usually very inexpensive and portable, and use that to do rows (and face pulls, if you want). I would also try to incorporate pull-ups (some parks have pull up bars, or you can install one at home) to work your lats. This might be tricky if…

Where I live, they have outdoors gyms at almost every park. I thought that would be common everywhere??!
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