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Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by vp8989 » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 11:33 AM UTC

IshKebab wrote: post #148

nbzso wrote: post #130

I gave my friends the following advice. Push yourselves away from AI trend tools and learn what is what before falling into this trap. In the era of AI those who can think, draw, write, code and be the best in their craft without it will rule the rest. Simple and clear. Prompting is not a skill which will differentiate (except for AI devs, as a part of fine-tuning the model's output). The real danger of AI is not get…

Terrible advice. This is like telling people not to use an IDE because auto-complete isn't always right. Or not to use document templates because they aren't finished. Github Copilot can - in some domains - make me 30% more productive. Once it becomes commonplace and the legal issues are sorted, luddites who refuse to use it will be left in the dust.

Focus on high value work that can't be automated is terrible advice?

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by ginko » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 12:00 PM UTC

I hate how Microsoft thinks they have the authority to dictate keyboard layouts. They're a software company and should keep out of hardware.

Bad enough that it's hard to find a keyboard without a windows key.

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by dustedcodes » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 12:35 PM UTC

asdff wrote: post #101

jjordan wrote: post #6

The way Microsoft is pushing AI literally everywhere now feels reminiscent of circa 2001 when literally everything was branded '.NET'. Eventually they scaled it back, but it was complete overkill and diluted what the brand was supposed to represent.

Its not even microsoft its everyone and their grandmother pushing AI this AI that crap. Really language model this language model that, but we've perverted what AI actually means to the public already so that's great too for technological literacy purposes.

Not really, it’s literally mostly Microsoft shoehorning AI everywhere and rebranding everything into Microsoft Azure CoPilot

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by CyberDildonics » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 1:17 PM UTC

ohlokkru wrote: post #240

asdff wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not even microsoft its everyone and their grandmother pushing AI this AI that crap. Really language model this language model that, but we've perverted what AI actually means to the public already so that's great too for technological literacy purposes.

Everyone had similar complaints about the cloud and USB, WiFi. Operating systems before that. DSLs for configuration. Circle of tech life, Simba.

What does the "AI" button on the keyboard do that compares to universal data and power ports or standardized secure wireless internet?

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 4:08 PM UTC

rjbwork wrote: post #215

altairprime wrote: post #113

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Whatever harvesting your specific personal creative written output for profit without compensation is called, that’s not telemetry. Telemetry is usage statistics. This is bulk theft of your copyrighted works at scale.

I don't relaly disagree with the sentiment that it is vvery unsavory, buuuttt to play devil's advocate: 1) copyright infringement is not theft 2) ai training is probably going to be rendered fair use

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Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by kjellsbells » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 5:12 PM UTC

majani wrote: post #142

UtopiaPunk wrote: post #126

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Are customers really asking for AI soda flavors, tho? https://us.coca-cola.com/products/coke-creations/y3000-limit...

smacking AI on anything is probably an easy promotion for the next couple years

Ding! We have a winner. It is exactly that. No different really from 1999 products slapping Internet on everything or 2020 ones inserting crypto. Most importantly of all, its what investors and stockholders want to see now, and they will punish the stock price of anything that doesnt have an AI strategy.

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by kjellsbells » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 5:16 PM UTC

CamperBob2 wrote: post #112

avtar wrote: post #100

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> It's the only thing they have that offers a prayer of beating Google at something I'm guessing their office suite offerings (hosted and desktop) dwarf anything that Google has.

Yeah, I clarified the post to indicate what I actually meant (Bing.) They would really, really like you to use Bing for search instead of Google. Until the OpenAI partnership started to bear fruit, they had no way to get their foot in that particular door. Now that they do, they will never let us forget it.

I think ppl need to realize that Microsoft isn't a uniform monolithic entity. Its a collection of hundreds of products all desperately vying for the attention of the market and of their own enterprise sellers. Anyone inside msft who has a "failing" product like Bing would have looked at the halo around openai and told their dev and marketing teams to drop everything and get some of that glory. To steal Mitt Romneys infamous phrase, companies are people, too.

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Post by snotrockets » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 6:52 PM UTC

ketralnis wrote: post #155

asdff wrote: post #101

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Its not even microsoft its everyone and their grandmother pushing AI this AI that crap. Really language model this language model that, but we've perverted what AI actually means to the public already so that's great too for technological literacy purposes.

I mean sure it's "everybody" but renaming Edge to Edge: AI Browser ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.... ) is more over the top than most.

“It’s toasted”

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 7:02 PM UTC

rjbwork wrote: post #215

altairprime wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatever harvesting your specific personal creative written output for profit without compensation is called, that’s not telemetry. Telemetry is usage statistics. This is bulk theft of your copyrighted works at scale.

I don't relaly disagree with the sentiment that it is vvery unsavory, buuuttt to play devil's advocate: 1) copyright infringement is not theft 2) ai training is probably going to be rendered fair use

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Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by int_19h » Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 7:46 PM UTC

bsimpson wrote: post #188

kdtsh wrote: post #167

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Maybe Space Cadet style modifiers will make a comeback!

I'm surprised it's not easier to find HYPER key caps to replace CAPS. I've been binding my caps to escape for a decade. There was a moment there where ChromeOS pointed out the vestigal nature of the caps key, and a blog post went viral in hacker circles about the history of the Hyper key. I ran Karabiner until Apple added ESC binding to Preferences. I can chord Esc+A and ESC+S to Quick Open and Command Palette (respe…

Caps Lock is very handy for all of us who need to switch between US English and our own native keyboard layout(s). That new button might also be repurposed for that eventually.