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Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I absolutely refuse to book any flight with a MAX aircraft.

I chose a flight using an Airbus 350 over a 787. I remember reading an article about how some Boeing employees are surprised the 787 planes don’t have more issues because their warnings about quality issues are ignored.

Besides not being a deathtrap, the A350 also has wider seats in economy due to a wider fuselage.

Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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Boeing is playing off its role as being so vital to national security that the government will keep it from suffering too much loss.

Fair enough.

However, if that is the case, then the bean counting management is guilty of sabotaging US national security by running Boeing into the ground for short term profits.

The entire C-Suite of Boeing should be sentenced to multi-decade prison terms at IDF SuperMax for their selling out US National security for profit.

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They’re building like one of these a day, mistakes get made. There’s nothing comparable to this assembly complexity in the computer world.

Aviation safety culture is indeed not comparable to that in software, and arguably that’s a very good thing (for aviation).

Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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> The Boeing 737-9 MAX rolled off the assembly line just two months ago, receiving its certification in November 2023, according to FAA record posted online. It’s 2 months old, so poor maintenance, wear and tear, etc are not even minor factors. This is just a poorly made plane with awful quality control. And that’s even before we get into some of the design issues, both the shortcuts they’ve taken and ones that are m…

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Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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Last month, I consciously chose a flight from the same airline that used an Airbus plane over a Boeing plane. I wonder if airlines have data showing that their Airbus flights are more popular than Boeing flights after adjusting differences.

They used to say “if it’s not Boeing, I’m not going.” Some sort of jingoistic tripe. I wonder how many true believers are left after all the trash Boeing has been putting out lately.

Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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Lost a window and an unoccupied seat per https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/18znz5p/as_1282_k... > According to FAA record posted online, the Boeing 737-9 MAX rolled off the assembly line just two months ago, receiving its certification in November 2023. Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38882358 (“HN: Boeing wants FAA to exempt MAX 7 from safety rules to get it in the air“)

The pictures clearly show that the seat is still there. It also wasn't a window... that's a plug for an unused emergency exit location. Planes have spots in the fuselage where emergency exits can be placed if the aircraft is configured with enough seats where it needs more exits. This one wasn't, so instead of an emergency exit, there's a plug bolted into the spot instead. Would have to guess that there was a defect…

It's not a plug door. It's an outward-opening door, apparently. [1] Usually, those things are plugs, and have to be pulled inward to open them, which is not possible when the cabin is pressurized. But there are B-737 configurations where it's an outward-opening door. For those, when there's a door installed, there's a single solenoid to prevent opening it in flight.[2] Is there some kind of dummy door that's installed if that location is not set up as an exit?

I'd thought that outward-opening doors on passenger aircraft had gone away after the DC-10 disasters with them.[3] Apparently not.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFNU0cc29OQ

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zyxy3naQh0

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_96

Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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Is the FAA going to drag their feet again grounding this plane until the problem is root caused?

I’d be willing to bet all planes built in the last year or so will be grounded immediately. As for others, possibly if they determine the issue is long standing and we’ve just been lucky.

Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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post #28

Tiktok video of the event posted to twitter. https://twitter.com/avgeekjake/status/1743474494411608489?s=...

Man.. if I hadnt seen it I wouldn't have believed it.That is absurd. How the FAA keeps approving this junk from Boeing is even more concerning than how bad Boeing manufacturing has become.

Honestly this might lead to another 737 Max grounding, which will shoot up the cost of airfare.

At this point, the 737 Max seems cursed.

Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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post #70

> Alaska flight 1282 left Portland just after 5pm local time on Friday when an emergency door blew out at 16,000 feet. If this happened at cruising altitude with a higher pressure differential, would the plane survive? (I know generally the door won't open at that altitude since they open inward, but I assume the same forces wouldn't do anything to prevent a window blowout)

The Aloha Airlines Flight 243 incident took place at 24,000 feet.

> The captain felt the aircraft roll to the left and right, and the controls went loose; the first officer noticed pieces of grey insulation floating in the cockpit. The cockpit door had broken away and the captain could see "blue sky where the first-class ceiling had been.

> The crew declared an emergency and diverted to Kahului Airport for an emergency landing. During the approach to the airport, the left engine failed, and the flight crew was unsure if the nose gear was lowered correctly. Nevertheless, they were able to land normally on Runway 2, thirteen minutes after the incident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243

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