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Re: Alaska Airlines 737 Max makes emergency landing due to depressurization

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Post by randycupertino »

camel_gopher wrote: post #30
randycupertino wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If it's Boeing, I'm not going." I was on a flight that made and emergency landing once, it was TERRIFYING. The pilot circled once then we went down at a very steep angle. What was even worse was the three days we were stranded in Gander Newfoundland while they fixed the plane and then flew in a new crew. It was basically an refueling/military base and not a real airport, no food or facilities. After that I never fle…

Holy shit I know someone who was in that flight

Ha, maybe I know you irl. Although it's a pretty common emergency landing and refueling spot for cross Atlantic flights. I think a lot of the 9-11 planes got grounded there, there's a nice book about how the local population of Canadians in Gander supported the giant sudden influx of population from the grounded flights.

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/148775

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Post by randycupertino »

tmpz22 wrote: post #18
randycupertino wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If it's Boeing, I'm not going." I was on a flight that made and emergency landing once, it was TERRIFYING. The pilot circled once then we went down at a very steep angle. What was even worse was the three days we were stranded in Gander Newfoundland while they fixed the plane and then flew in a new crew. It was basically an refueling/military base and not a real airport, no food or facilities. After that I never fle…

Thats a decent setup for a Hallmark movie - two travelers stranded and isolated find love through the zaney activities used to pass time in a remote locale.

Heh. Although was it was a very NON-ROMANTIC situation!! We all were in the same clothes for four days and people were getting majorly drunk and throwing up because the flight crew gave away all the alcohol from the plane to apologize for the delay.

I've never felt more gross in my life or had a nicer shower in my life than that first one after we finally landed, got to the location and finally relaxed. Mainly it was not having a toothbrush that was the worst!

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Post by addicted »

> The Boeing 737-9 MAX rolled off the assembly line just two months ago, receiving its certification in November 2023, according to FAA record posted online.

It’s 2 months old, so poor maintenance, wear and tear, etc are not even minor factors.

This is just a poorly made plane with awful quality control.

And that’s even before we get into some of the design issues, both the shortcuts they’ve taken and ones that are more fundamental.

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Post by kaelinl »

shreezus wrote: post #51
tigeroil wrote: post #13

It's Alaska Airlines. I wouldn't read too much into Boeing's reliability from this, given Alaska's previous maintenance record...

Aren’t maintenance protocols handled by the FAA? Otherwise it would be implied that budget carriers like Spirit or Alaska would be “less” safe (which isn’t the case AFAIK).

In what way is Alaska a "budget carrier"?

Maintenance protocols are a mix of manufacturer recommendations and carrier/maintenance contractor SOPs, which are then approved by the manufacturer and FAA.

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Post by TylerE »

blackoil wrote: post #60
TylerE wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I retract nothing. The cause of that crash was pilot error. They ignored written procedure, and did not react to multiple serious warnings, including the master caution. Which is something you do not ignore. Also note this was still only an issue because the pilots ALSO refused to verify the position of the aft outflow valve. It was the combination of all these things. So no, there absolutely is not a "press this but…

So, what you are trying to say there is no button but a "don't switch this off or everyone suffocates" switch.

more like a "don't throw BOTH of these at the same time, while also ignoring every warning device in the cockpit". The master caution will both flash and say "CAUTION! CAUTION! CAUTION!" You can't miss it.

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Post by higeorge13 »

mustardboy wrote: post #10

Tiktok video of the event posted to twitter. https://twitter.com/avgeekjake/status/1743474494411608489?s=...

Wow I couldn’t believe it the first time I watched that video, had to watch it multiple times. Crazy and scary!

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Post by ro_bit »

> Alaska flight 1282 left Portland just after 5pm local time on Friday when an emergency door blew out at 16,000 feet.

If this happened at cruising altitude with a higher pressure differential, would the plane survive? (I know generally the door won't open at that altitude since they open inward, but I assume the same forces wouldn't do anything to prevent a window blowout)

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