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Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by TheCleric »

antisthenes wrote: post #60
tenebrisalietum wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is Microsoft suppsed to represent? I'm not sure their brand has ever been anything more concrete over its total existence other than BASIC/MS-DOS in the beginning, a few long running products (Windows, Office, Xbox, Azure) and that it is involved with user-facing technology.

I think at this point MS is really representing the enterprise/corporate Office suite as well as being exceptionally annoying with their Browser strategy. But that's just my IMHO.

Same as it ever was.

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Post by calamari4065 »

ketralnis wrote: post #155
asdff wrote: post #101

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Its not even microsoft its everyone and their grandmother pushing AI this AI that crap. Really language model this language model that, but we've perverted what AI actually means to the public already so that's great too for technological literacy purposes.

I mean sure it's "everybody" but renaming Edge to Edge: AI Browser ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.... ) is more over the top than most.

Good lord, that's just ridiculous

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Post by lobsterthief »

swozey wrote: post #175
olyjohn wrote: post #141

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Because people will accidentally push the button and be sent to LinkedIn. Good for their stats. Computers are no longer being built to do what you want them to, but what the software maker wants you to do with them.

I cancelled Netflix years ago. I just got a new Shield TV remote with only a Netflix button and it is constantly getting hit. I probably hit it 5+ times a night. I wonder what they learn from that.

Open it up and put a small bit of kapton tape on the circuit board beneath that button to prevent it from making contact. Then it will do nothing, forever.

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Post by c0wb0yc0d3r »

tech234a wrote: post #154
doodpants wrote: post #109

"On an up-to-date Windows PC with Copilot enabled, you can currently do the same thing by pressing Windows + C. For PCs without Copilot enabled, including those that aren't signed into Microsoft accounts, the Copilot key will open Windows Search instead" Just tried Windows + C on my Win 10 machine; it brings up a dialog that helpfully informs me "Cortana in Windows as a standalone app is deprecated."

On Windows 10, Windows + S opens search.

Is that different then just pressing the windows key? I just poured the windows key and start typing a query.

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Post by cald0s »

blibble wrote: post #139
tenebrisalietum wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is Microsoft suppsed to represent? I'm not sure their brand has ever been anything more concrete over its total existence other than BASIC/MS-DOS in the beginning, a few long running products (Windows, Office, Xbox, Azure) and that it is involved with user-facing technology.

> What is Microsoft suppsed to represent? unreliable software combined with abusive business practices

I've never been able to find a better office suite. The FOSS alternatives and the google suite just don't do it for me.

I also switched back to Windows over Linux as my primary desktop environment.

Am I a victim of abuse?

(Mind you I don't pay for either)

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Post by torstenvl »

cald0s wrote: post #226
blibble wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What is Microsoft suppsed to represent? unreliable software combined with abusive business practices

I've never been able to find a better office suite. The FOSS alternatives and the google suite just don't do it for me. I also switched back to Windows over Linux as my primary desktop environment. Am I a victim of abuse? (Mind you I don't pay for either)

It isn't that Office is abusive or Windows is abusive, it's that Microsoft is.

Word '97 is still my favorite word processor ever. Windows 7 is one of my favorite operating systems. I don't think they're abusive.

What's abusive is how slow Office 365 is. What's abusive is how updates reset all my settings trying to make Office 365 bearable (don't use cloud, save to computer by default, don't show backstage, etc.). What's abusive is FORCING me to combine taskbar buttons on Windows 11. What's abusive (and unreliable) is randomly selecting the whole filename while I'm editing it when the file is on OneDrive.

And that's just the tip of the ice berg.

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Post by number6 »

regularfry wrote: post #132
troebr wrote: post #79

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Oof. This should be more like a media key than a required key. I view it like a "Volume up/down" key, it's nice but not essential. Although it's probably much less useful than a volume key.

You could say the same about the Windows key itself. Many did.

You mean the super key or command key...

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Post by nbzso »

postalrat wrote: post #195
nbzso wrote: post #165

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I don't think autocomplete is comparable with generative code processes. Using AI as a helper in analytics and documentation, yes. But how knowing to code without AI will leave me in the dust? I will know less? Or I will be so slow that the management will oust me? After measuring my "performance" trough corporate timer for code per minute?

Discussing it here won't change whatever happens in a couple years.

Whatever happens in a couple of years will be 10-20 percent from projected marketing hype.

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Post by glandium »

tiborsaas wrote: post #111
scrps wrote: post #28

Because everyone loves brand marketing on their keyboards... Microsoft would incur far less wrath if they would stop letting their marketing department run their company.

It's hard to buy a TV with a remote control that has no streaming provider buttons. I guess that's where they are getting the idea from.

And these keys end up not doing anything because the service dies or something.
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